Ford XR6t

[R33NT]

I know this is a skyline appreciation forum but i have always been open minded about cars. If the XR6t had been around when i bought my GTS25t i would have had a much more difficult time deciding on buying my skyline.

In the following link they say that with a couple of tweaks and some extra boost you get 252rwkw out of the XR6t. How tuff is that. Also they say that 300rwkw would be a "doddle", that will really put the wind up someone driving a HSV with 300 flywheel kw.....

http://www.fordforums.com/showthread.php?t...25&pagenumber=1

I think it is impressive that a local manufacturer has finally come up with a MODERN performance car. None of this single cam push rod junk but a really serious peice of gear. Mind you dont get me started on how the intercooler is plumbed because that really was a MAJOR COMPROMISE.

[KamikazeR33]

i heard the manual gearbox shits itself after 280kw's at the fly

[R33NT]

The manual gear box is a peice of shit to start of with, it feels like you are pushing the gear stick through playdoo, there is no crisp feeling to the shift. I test drove one and absolutely hated the manual, the sequential auto is heaps nice though.

[Guest INASNT]

The engine and turbo on the xr6t are good but the rest of the driveline will crap itself with a bit more power.

And remeber they weight nearly 1800kg's.

I raced 1 recently and i have the same rwkw as the stock 1 and i pulled away quite easily as my car weights about 400kg's less

[hungry6]

bolting on a turbo doesn't instantly makes it a well refine sportcar as a skyline. but it does help the falcon street cred though. if u get a chance hurl one into a sweeper at the same rate as u would do in a skyline and see how much room there is left in ur undies. It's still a family car in the end.

[R33NT]

Hungry 6 have you tried driving one????

It is more of a family car than a race car (skyline being a race car of course) as such it will weigh more.

I personally hate the way the intercooler/ inlet manifold/ turbo is piped because it is a compromise. BUT you cant argue with a family car that pulls 240kW running 6psi which is heavily detuned. Oh by the way can your car seat 4 people as comfortably as a XR6t???

I took one for a run and i was surprised at how the suspension combined with the traction control made the car stick under serious accelaration through some cornering. The sales person did get a bit edgy at times but i assured him that i was looking at upgrading from the GTS25t to a family car with some go (cough cough like hell i was).

They didnt JUST bolt on a turbo if you check the specs they also dropped the static compression ratio and did a lot of heat shielding among other things.

[hungry6]

why would i want to fit 4 adults in the r33? i got the audi a6 for that it is also 4wd twin turbo

[R33NT]

smart arse :slap:

[Roy]

My mate works for the company that makes Ford's transmissions, and agrees the manual is at an end for torque handling, they have been leaning on it for years and keep asking to do what it was never designed to do, with this in mind the 5 spod doesnt do that bad a job.

He has worked primarily on the auto, and with him having driven my 32 GTST many times when im pissed and egging him on, he has a good idea what my car can do.

For the record the guy isnt full of BS, and claims despite the weight of the car, and saloon heritage, the development mules that he R & D flog my GTSt in accelaration, have great brakes, and handle great. He says with the handling you just have to be mindful the it is a production car with a pretty hefty kerb weight, so no brakes/heavy acceleration mid corner/ebtry to corner etc, be smooth and it can do the job. Hell he has driven the thing on great ocean road.

[R33NT]

I think i heard that they where looking at a different manual box for the BA2. Does your mate know anything about that or is it just wishful thinking on the part of the people that are waiting for BA2??

[Jay95R33]

I've heard from a few sources that the XR6t has a boost limit of 7psi.

Once it hit's 7psi the ECU starts to pull back timing and then starts the boost cut - just like some R33 gts-t's hit at 12psi.

If this is true, it'd be a pain in the butt to go to a full ECU change on such a modern car for a few extra psi

They are nice cars though. Boss at work has a blue one... Nice......

[R33NT]

They must have gotten around it because chiptorque and aps have kits or are in the process of developing them.

[payaya]

yep they have got around it, with a piggy back ECU. The 252RWKW is the standard kit, with another kit being over 300KW.

[R33NT]

how tuff is that??????

[Guest INASNT]

300rwkw?? hahaha there goes your new car warranty and the rest of the driveline

[payaya]

hey thats why its upto you if you want to up the boost etc.

[CanberraR33]

There was a good article in the last HPI comparing the XR6 Turbo to the Supra. They said "The closest thing to a Japanese car to come out of Australia. We can't praise the XR6T any more than that".

I think the guy doing the review was a little biased as he owns a Supra, but hey, what can you do?

The writer goes on about how the 2JZ-GTE is the greatest and most proven engine of all time, whereas the 240T still has to prove it's self. "The few players in the aftermarket who have tested the 240T engine have come away confused and frustrated with an uncooperative managment system, and intercooler/exhaust systems that are far from optimum".

Apparently the LPG spec rods are a must for a serious build-up.

They also said that the Ford doesn't like to be revved!

All in all though, I think Ford is onto a good thing. However, if I was looking for a sporty family car, I'd still by a WRX!

[R33NT]

OK

Firstly it is a 4ltr. Motors with large swept capacity dont need to rev much because the have bulk torque early on in the rev range where as my RB25DET needs to be revved to get any go out of it.

For a sporty family car i would think it is ideal because you get a large turbo six with auto. You can be as lazy as you want to be and you can seat 4 passengers with large arses comfortably.

[payaya]

i think the inline 6 has a longer stroke than the skyline.

[R33NT]

If you knew the ratio of stroke to bore diameter on both the cars you would most likely see why the XR6t doesnt rev much.