R32 Brake Upgrades

[DJRIFT]

hi all im just wondering if anyone has done any brake upgrades that have made a big difference. seeings how im doing my water pump ive decided to do a few other things like my brakes as the pads have worn out.

ive been looking in to it today while looking for my water pump. basicly ive found the following for a good price. bendix ultimate pads on the front and rear, with im not sure what brand slotted rotors on the front.

bendix pads are around $100 mark and arent much good for the track but good on the road. it has been sagested to me that i buy a seperate set of pads for raceing on, like EBC reds.

the rotors are through advanced automotive solutions (i can get them at trade) and are about $110 each or DBA wich are around $220 each.

has anyone had any experiance with any of these products or could recomend anything elce.

i had also thought of GTR brakes but there would be no real benifit unless i went for R33 GTR brakes which would cost more than buying new rotors and pads.

thanks for any input.

[sav man]

Bendex are fine for the track, I used them on my car for a club day. Unless your going to be doing heaps of laps at a time, Bendex will be fine.

[PHaT MR30]

replace the lines with braided lines?

there is a few ppl out there making adaptors so you can run R34 330mm discs

[DJRIFT]

replace the lines with braided lines?

there is a few ppl out there making adaptors so you can run R34 330mm discs

dam it why didnt i wait. na i dont mind. i looked at making some spacers to run V spec rotors 324mm but the cost isnt worth it for me at the moment. i grabbed a set of just slotted rotors off the group buy for around $150 and a set of bendix ultimate pads for $115. cheap up grade and im sure ill notice it.

ill also look at replacing the lines with braided items after the new pads have beded in as i may never push the car enough to justify them.

[PHaT MR30]

dam it why didnt i wait. na i dont mind. i looked at making some spacers to run V spec rotors 324mm but the cost isnt worth it for me at the moment. i grabbed a set of just slotted rotors off the group buy for around $150 and a set of bendix ultimate pads for $115. cheap up grade and im sure ill notice it.

ill also look at replacing the lines with braided items after the new pads have beded in as i may never push the car enough to justify them.

a place called maltech does a kit to suit skyline which is ADR approved, about $300 but well worth it, he is on nissansilvia and often has specials going check it (probably a trader on here but i don't get on here much).

[toffy]

i dont know why you wanna upgrade 32 brakes, mine throws you out the window when you wanna use them

[grandmasterb]

replace the lines with braided lines?

there is a few ppl out there making adaptors so you can run R34 330mm discs

Braided lines are a must for upgrade.

i dont know why you wanna upgrade 32 brakes, mine throws you out the window when you wanna use them

I agree with toff on this one there doesn't seem much point to upgrade brakes on a stock 32 and before you jump up and down and say that it wont be stock for much longer the standard brakes would be fine unless your are thinking of circuit work or drift!!!

[DJRIFT]

thanks for everyones replys.

maybe i should have mentioned it but i do plan on circuit and drift racing and what ever elce i feel like doing.

i have already got all the stuff for the upgrade now anyway and shoud be fitted by the end of this coming week.

i origanly decided to do this only because the pads were worn and the rotors were getting pretty worn. i was also able to get the rotors cheap as. ive chosen a good set of pads for road use and once i head for the track ill get somthing better for race conditions (high heat)

ive also gotten my advice so far off the people that maintain targar and track cars and what they feel to be the best. they see it that there realy isnt a good road/track pad so i should just get somthing good for the road and somthing for race later.

i also didnt want to take this mod to far thats why i didnt get spacers and run bigger rotors. i have just siply got better rotors and new pads

[sav man]

If you are planning to go out to a Symmonds track day (club day, not drifting), I would recoment to try and fit some brake dukting.

[CATKICKER]

without investigating myself damo... what is a good option for upgrading rotor size and running spacers, how much am I looking at and what advantage would I have over what you have done? (new pads and slotted rotors - my most likly upgrade)

cheers,

Todd

thanks for everyones replys.

maybe i should have mentioned it but i do plan on circuit and drift racing and what ever elce i feel like doing.

i have already got all the stuff for the upgrade now anyway and shoud be fitted by the end of this coming week.

i origanly decided to do this only because the pads were worn and the rotors were getting pretty worn. i was also able to get the rotors cheap as. ive chosen a good set of pads for road use and once i head for the track ill get somthing better for race conditions (high heat)

ive also gotten my advice so far off the people that maintain targar and track cars and what they feel to be the best. they see it that there realy isnt a good road/track pad so i should just get somthing good for the road and somthing for race later.

i also didnt want to take this mod to far thats why i didnt get spacers and run bigger rotors. i have just siply got better rotors and new pads

[DJRIFT]

hey todd.

ill answer your questions from the info i have and have been advised about doing.

the biggest rotors that come in standard form from RDA (rotors and drumbs australia) seem to be the V-spec ones. they are 324mm. they retail at $490 a pair, they are also slotted. slotted and dimpled are about doubble the price. these could also be had for around 2/3 the price in the SAU group buy once freight is added.

from what i found the GTR and GTS-t calipers are exactly the same bar the GTR ones are 2mm wider. also the GTR ones are forged so they heavier than the GTS ones. (not 100% on that either but one of my mates just did a conversion to skyline brakes on his 180 and he said GTS ones were better for the job) GTS ones should still clear a GTR rotor but i cant be 100%. the pad size is also exactly the same between the too.

so basicly you can use the standard caliper on a much bigger rotor. all that is needed is a plate made to move the caliper outwards also makeing it sit either lower or higher on the rotor because of spacing. we had a look at doing this and it would realy be a pice of pie but getting it engineered may not be (if you care about that)

as tim also said there is people making these spacers that are ADR aproved for $300

then you need pads. EBC greens seem to be the best option for the road. they are better than bendix ones as the bendix ones chew through rotors because of their compound as the EBC ones have a much nicer to rotor compound. EBC greens go for the $200 mark where as the bendix ones were around the $100 (thats why i got them) Get a different set for the track. EBC reds are about $220 but they arent any good for the street as they need to be up to temp to work.

braided lines are good and shoud be done as well. they are done to achieve a better fealing peddal. My friend with the 180 got his lines from USA heaps cheaper than he could get them hear but they arent ADR approved. i think i was quoted aroud $80 to $150 for a pair through a local brake shop so you could find better.

so for the fronts you have

rotors $490

spacers $300

pads $200

Braided lines $100

total $1090 + some new fluid and other crap

for the rears some braided lines and new pads shoud be enough unless you want to go hard core.

pads $200

lines $100

total $300

if you want any thing better than this set up expect to spend a lot more. but a full brembo front set up sold for $1500 a week or so back so there is another option.

my setup cost me so far $270 but im yet to get braided lines. it will be on and running buy the end of the week and once they have bedded in ill let you know how good they are.

there is also more options for pads and rotors like DBA and ferodo but this is what i looked into.

[CATKICKER]

wicked... thanks for that mate.

I think I may just go the slotted standard sized rotors with good pads and braided lines... is that prics for the lines fitted?

I may also look at a brake booster (supports the brake cylinder...) have heard good things about them as far as bake feel goes... more solid ect

Thanks again Damo, I will let you know how I go!

May be a while as I might need to replace my motor... blowing some smoke

P.S. I just got ALL my suspension gear in + my Tomei HICAS lock kit and will be taking it in tomorrow for an alignment... will let you know how that goes too!

Edited September 24, 2006 by CATKICKER

[tas skyline]

FYI, Cable Mate make braided brake lines that are ADR approved, Enzed lines are not ADR approved.

Regards,

Rod.

[DJRIFT]

I may also look at a brake booster (supports the brake cylinder...) have heard good things about them as far as bake feel goes... more solid ect

i am currently deciding weather it is worth buying a nismo strut brace with one of these on it. i seen one on a 32 a few weeks back and thought that it was a grate idea. ever since then ive seen them everywhere. well worth it i think.

i cant realy remember the price on the lines i just threw that price up there as a guide.

damo