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Hi Guys,

I'd like to hear from ppl that have driven or own an R34 with a Tiptronic gearbox.

I've had different manual cars for 15year. For City driving the idea of Tiptronic sounds good (maybe I'm getting old!!).

How do they compare?

Any problems?

Any comments would be great

Thanks

PEARMAN

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Just drove an R34 tiptronic last week, but didnt like it at all. The response time in changing gears under hard acceleration was disappointing. I dont know whether this is normal or not but no bull, it took a good 1-2 seconds for the gear to change. When you change down gears, it responded very quickly. Anyone have any ideas?

Drove one yesterday...very disappointed. Very solid car, but felt very slow after being in a couple of (manual) r33 gtst's earlier that day. Have borrowed a friends 911 with tiptronic and also got bored within an hour. Maybe it's just me, but unless there is a serious amount of power to be harnessed I'm going to fall asleep at the wheel of any auto sports car...

PigB8, i agree fully. Have also driven a friends 911 tiptronic, and yeah, boring.

I think the whole tiptronic idea is crap personally. Its just a different way of shifting an auto box, and from driving the porsche, the gear selectors on the steering wheel may as well not be there! Id prefer to shift an auto box Via its shifter anyway! I hear a lot of people talking about tiptronic systems as if they are some type of sequential shifting manual box, when in fact they are still the same old slushbox!

BUT if theres serious power available then there is fun to be had. Other than that, unless you do mainly city driving and never go for a thrash through the twisties, just get a manual.

Skylines are sports cars, get a manual and get the most out of the car. My 2c :)

I think these companies should start investing in sequential manual gearbox, as the SMG2 is a dream to drive with minimal lag, and do faster time 1/4 mile than manual versions of the car. If you think about it, if it's designed properly, computerised gear change should be faster than human gear shifting, as seen in F1 cars

But yeah, I don't see the point in tiptronic, it's just for auto drivers to feel good, and more in control

what would be the major difference between an auto triptronic box and a real sequential box like the BMW's SMG???

is it with the SMG it does have a manual clutch kit, with master/slave cylinder, and not just a torque converter like in other auto?

yeah E46 is the way to go with the SMG2, I have the SMG 1 and wished it was the SMG2

I don't know about the mechanical difference much, but SMG is basically still a manual gearbox (6spd in m3's case), where tiptronic is still basically auto.

But in real life driving experience wise, tiptronic is much smoother in gearchange, SMG1 is quite jerky if you aren't used to it, you have to let go of the throttle a little bit at the right time to make a perfect gear change. And if you put it to auto mode, where it changes the gears automatically, that's even worse, coz sometimes you don't know when it changes gears, and when it does u gotta try and time when to let go of the throttle which is quite hard. This is where SMG2 solves all these problems, minimises all the lag.

Advantage of the SMG over tiptronic is, it's as good as manual, better in SMG2 wise, and have the luxury of driving it auto style, no need to worried about clutch, or rev matching during gear down as it's done automatically

Tiptronic is smoother and heaps easier to drive, but has a longer lag between gear shifts, especially gear shifting down, this is for a lancer as I haven't driven any porsches with tiptronic, but I know they're bit lazy during launch as you can't drop the clutch with them

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