Aircon

[noone]

Have located a reasonable GTR here in Darwin one of the few drama's is the aircon compressor ( according to the current owner ) is kaput. He had it regassed but the compressor was toast, has anyone priced or tried to replace one not sure if local skyline aircon parts would be compatible thought I might pose the Question to see if any of the experts might know.

thanx in advance for any help u can provide.

[recce]

Mate! Try justjap in sydney.

[noone]

Thanx for the help I will have to give them a call if the fridgey at work has no luck, he seems pretty sure its more likely just a leak than a f**ked compressor. hope so

Again thanx for the reply

[washie]

hahaha good luck man i thought the same thing and it turns out my compressor is stuffed the part that the magnet is meant to pull in has moved out about 30mm so the magnet isnt strong enough to pull it in so let us know how u go.

[GTRsean]

The coil tends to pull out of metal holder as the adhesive breaks down over time. Common problem. Do a serch for the things people do to fix em. Pull mine aprt to fix coil and shes been working fine, saved me $1500 for a new one.

[noone]

The coil tends to pull out of metal holder as the adhesive breaks down over time. Common problem. Do a serch for the things people do to fix em. Pull mine aprt to fix coil and shes been working fine, saved me $1500 for a new one.

sorry for the slow reply been busy got it checked out today an they reckon the compressor is definitly leaking this wouldnt be related to coil pulling out would it?

[noone]

Okay just Jap couldnt help turns out the zexel brand one I have is harder to get than the calsonic have found a mob in adelaide who have one offa gts4 that may do the trick anyone done this before and can confirm/deny that it fits

Edited January 17, 2007 by noone

[noone]

anyone

[noone]

To save others the hassle no gts-4 air compressor doesn't work on a gtr physically similar in size and mounting but pipes and fittings dont match up. Damn

Looks like I might remain airconless

[Godzilla32]

Contact an auto aircon company and get the compresor serviced/repaired...

[noone]

Contact an auto aircon company and get the compresor serviced/repaired...

chasing that option up 2morrow but read on here parts to rebuild are rare as hens teeth also, was in one of the sticky's I think about r32 aircon self diagnostics, thinking may even be an option to repipe modify pipes to suit, hopefully might find some sort of solution soon its damn hot at the moment.

had a look at your restoration post godzilla32 awesome work mate top stuff.

"The GTR is truly paradise for someone desperately wanting to empty their wallet" so true so true

Edited January 17, 2007 by noone

[hayden49]

bleh air con is for pussy's.

My Gt-st has been air con-less since i got it, all it needs is a condensor but i really cbf getting it fixed.

Never used my aircon in my last car anyway.

[noone]

"bleh air con is for pussy's. "

might think different if u lived in Darwin as I do. Nice to be able to demist windows when its pissin down rain too.

took it to another guy today and he checked it out and found it still had some gas in it just not enough, shows its good to get a couple of opinions, and find some one who is actually keen to do the job. Acording to this guy there is the possibility that an older leaking compressor especially one that has been left ungassed for a while the seals and such will dry up and shrink/contract a bit after a regas some of the lubricant soaks into these seals and gaskets allowing them to swell and OFTEN seal up again no guarantee's that it will but it can work that way. Seems to have worked for me though the coil is looking a bit iffy worked for most of the day before it tripped the fuse, will have to pull the coil and rewind or at least revarnish them as they are reading a little high compared with the 3.5 ohms (from memory) that the manual say u should see to earth.

Lucky there is a good howto on this very site showing how, to pull the coil, and I know the local motor rewinder helps a little too,

thanks to all who offered help or opinions

Edited January 19, 2007 by noone

[Cubes]

noone,

Try to find some one who can fill her with R12A gas.

When I bought the car it had R12 in it from Japan. The a/c was fine, nice and cold. The compressor was quiet and didn't really notice the compressor taxing power.

The car was in a small accident and the mob converted it to R134a. I got the car back and a/c wasn't as cold, the compressor was really noisy and I could feel it tax the power, then it blew a hose and leaked out. I also noticed when sitting in peak hour traffic it would cut the a/c. I fixed this by fitting a larger 14" thermofan that pushed a hell of a lot more air.

Apparently R134a is not so good from an effiency point. It runs at much higher pressures which is why I could hear my air con compressor and feel it cycle in and out and it also runs hotter, so the condensor works much harder.

R134a also has smaller mollecules so it leaks out quicker, R12a has larger molecules so slower leak.

I recently took it to a bloke here locally and he said to throw R12A in to these as the compressors don't agree with the R134A's higher pressures.

Since its been filled with R12A the air con is silent and I cannot feel the power tax, its also much colder.

Definitely happy with the R12A over the crappy R134A.

From memory the R12A ignites over 800degree's where as the R134A is around 300degree's.

[Godzilla32]

had a look at your restoration post godzilla32 awesome work mate top stuff.

"The GTR is truly paradise for someone desperately wanting to empty their wallet" so true so true

Cheers for that mate! As always i appreciate it

Some may recognise that line about emptying your wallet when owning a GTR as its from HPI GTR special edition. I liked it so i took it as my own hehe..

Im like you, if its hot you want to have the option to turn on your aircon. The car came out with it so in my mind it should work! Enjoy the GTR

Deren

[noone]

Cubes thanx for that info mate very interesting did notice that the car seemed to run heaps hotter with the aircon running, for the painfully short time it did. r12a being the older gas may be a little harder to find though these days think there is a guy in darwin who still has some so once I get the compressor clutch thing sorted might give it a go though specially if it does end up leaking again, kinda hope not.

Godzilla32 gotta give credit where credits due on your build an agree it came with aircon so getting it workin is worth it and makes the car seem unfinished/lesser if it isnt working, i think. Unless you have stripped it all out to save weight which is another thing alltogether

Edited January 22, 2007 by noone

[Sumo]

R12a is not too hard to find - Most workshops recover R12a keep it for themselves and fill the system back up with R134a and change the receiver dryer.

Im not sure what its worth to buy off them - but I would say it would be expensive - as is like any A/C work you get done to your car.

Cheers

Sumo

[Cubes]

R12a isn't the old gas R12 is, note the lack of A!

R12a is 100% enviro friendly unlike the R134a.

R12a is cheap, I had mine vac'd and recharged for $130. Alot here in Adelaide don't work with R12a, I believe thats because they need to be certified to work with it.