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Hey all, I'm the ex owner of a sexy c33 laurel - really wish I didn't sell that car... Anyway,

In regards to the rb20e motored auto a31 cefiro, what needs to be done in regards to an rb20det manual swap...

Are the brakes the same as the stock rb20det cefiros, do the rb20det bolt straight in, is the gearbox the same as far as autos go and is it any harder to put a manual in because of the whole rb20e thing.

How about the diff in the rb20e, is it a VLSD like the turbo models?

Thanks, Any info would be really really good, I need it quickish

Cheers boys

Gavin

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hey buddy,

the non turbo never came wit VLSD (only turbo)

um the brakes shud be the same as the s13 so i think you'll need 2 upgrade to sr20det (ca18det brakes are shit 4 a rb) brakes nd disks (not 100%)

not too sure if your doin this your self but... a decent-ish price on da manual covertion installed with parts and rb20det gear box shud b around 1.5 grand

if u are doin it your self(nd not a mech) u will have sum headache's but is doable..... and dats if u have a guide 2 follow lol

p.s wat state u located in?

Edited by Dan_J

quick question, sort of off topic....

I have a RB20E Manual 5-speed Tranny... im 85% sure its the same as what comes on a RB20DET... anybody know for sure? i think the NA and Turbo are different im talking specifically the flywheel...

Edited by 4DoorWhore

^ um the rb20det is stronger then the rb20de, you can use the rb20de box if you wanna go cheap, i think the gear ratio is a lil dif ( not too sure). although you'll probly blow it at sum point seeing the you live in jap and have nice roads 2 play with

quick question, sort of off topic....

I have a RB20E Manual 5-speed Tranny... im 85% sure its the same as what comes on a RB20DET... anybody know for sure? i think the NA and Turbo are different im talking specifically the flywheel...

They have different housings, but the internals are pretty much the same. It's not worth it to swap in a turbo gearbox.

the non turbo never came wit VLSD (only turbo)

Not true, as far as I know they never came in any single cam models though. Lots of DE Cefiro's with the five speed auto came with the VLSD.

Check here: http://d1nz.org.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2541 Most of your questions have been answered.

Edited by open24hours
^ um the rb20det is stronger then the rb20de, you can use the rb20de box if you wanna go cheap, i think the gear ratio is a lil dif ( not too sure). although you'll probly blow it at sum point seeing the you live in jap and have nice roads 2 play with

well i didnt wanna give you the back story but ill make it quick.... i sold the manual tranny and all the components to a mate here in japan to do a auto to manual swap... but my dumbass left my flywheel on my wrecked R32 GTSt and off to the junk yard it went....

so instead of buying a $150 dollar flywheel, i considered just using the one from my Cefiro motor (an RB20E not a DE) since im gonna rip out the motor anyways and throw it away when i put the SR in next week.

so yeah im just wondering about the Flywheel not the entire tranny since i have a DET tranny minus flywheel.

sorry again to sort-of thread jack....

  • 2 weeks later...

thanks didnt bother to try, found a new clutch and fly for $150 so im not complaining.. and my cefiro remains drivable at the same time... still slow but drivable... man i need to finish this SR

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