Intercooler Question

[R34NRG]

saved up around 6g to buy a souind system but it cant be installed untill like 2 months later. so i thought id spend it on the performance side.

i dont really wanna get one of those justjap intercoolers as i hear when u get to the higher power ends they tend to fail. so i was wondering what sort of cooler would be best suited for high power apps?

i was offered a blitz kit for around 1300.....can i get better?

[rev210]

What sort of 'higher power' are you talking about.

Make that the basis of your parts selections as opposed to 'cheap'.

[R34NRG]

my mate was losing around 50-60 kws because of the heat that the cooler couldnt keep under control. he upgraded to some Trust cooler and was only losing around 15

[Dav]

losing 15 compared to what?

[Trooper]

saved up around 6g to buy a souind system but it cant be installed untill like 2 months later. so i thought id spend it on the performance side.

i dont really wanna get one of those justjap intercoolers as i hear when u get to the higher power ends they tend to fail. so i was wondering what sort of cooler would be best suited for high power apps?

i was offered a blitz kit for around 1300.....can i get better?

I got the Blitz LM FMIC for under $1000 from Nengun. IMO a great buy.

[tmc_2]

I got the Blitz LM FMIC for under $1000 from Nengun. IMO a great buy.

Yes the Blitz LM is a great buy from nengun!

[R34NRG]

the blitz might be a great "buy" from nengun but how does the actual product come up against TRUST and HKS or even ARC coolers?

[GreddyGo]

From various tests I have seen over the internet the ARC are the better of them all,

How much power/boost are you eventually goint to put through it?

I find it really hard to believe someone was losing 60KW from heatsoak in a FMIC, I was only loosing a mac of 5-10 through my standard SMIC.

Cheers

Josh

[nuffsaid]

Blitz LM was rated very well in a comparison I read a long time ago. Get it from nengun.

[R31Nismoid]

the blitz might be a great "buy" from nengun but how does the actual product come up against TRUST and HKS or even ARC coolers?

Put it this way.

Your not making 500rwkw are you?

And to be honest, who cares about your mates setup? We arent talking about his car, so its irrelevant.

So you can either be one of the following.

1) stupid. and spend over $1000 on some jap branded thing

2) smart. purchase a justjap/gtek or some other mid level brand

3) smartest. give me $1300, i'll spray Blitz onto a JJ cooler and give it too ya, and tell you its a Blitz cooler and have a wild night down at the Pink Palace.

You will be hard pressesed to pick the difference. You have a stock turbo, even with a hi-flow, you still wont be outside its boundaries by a long shot.

There are more than enough people making 250rwkw without much of a drama on option number 2, some even more.

Go with option 3 its by far the best

[QBall-Cairns]

Go with option 3 its by far the best

LOL!

Good call and makes sense too, Option 2 anyway. Option 3... Maybe not so much.

[Trooper]

the blitz might be a great "buy" from nengun but how does the actual product come up against TRUST and HKS or even ARC coolers?

I was not indicating quality, simply that Nengun offers the blitz kit for under $1000, which is $300 cheaper than where ever else he had looked.

I did not buy mine for the "brand name" as such. I did not spray BLITZ across the front of mine.

One of the main reasons I got the kit was so that I didnt have to cut any holes for the pipework, but now I want a new plazmaman plenum it makes it hard with the pipework (would be even longer path than it has now due to the end tank return style) and I think when I do this it will be Bye bye Blitz LM.

[smurf80]

What exactly has been done to your car? I agree with greddygo I find it hard to believe you would lose that much power on a FMIC.I decided on the blitz kit mainly for the reason it was pretty much a direct fit and we didnt have to cut any holes in the chassis or trim the fan blades for the return pipe. I didnt spray blitz on mine either and would prefer it to be bland as Idont want to attract theives.

Cheers

[evil_weevil]

R31nismoid -

Totally agree - infact - go halves?

In all seriousness though - Your paying for a name brand, the jj ones prove to work well, mine works a treat for what Im using.

If you have stock turbo, exhaust, basic mods - jj ones are great. why spend another 500 -1k when you could put that savings to fuel pump or injectors?

I asked about justjap coolers a while ago - few guys her ehavethem and support 250rwkw no worries.

However I can understand people not wanting to cut holes in their cars.

[shnaped_second]

Im not into all this cheap crap i ve had to much fail so i went with qaulity ARC FTW!

[R34NRG]

Put it this way.

Your not making 500rwkw are you?

And to be honest, who cares about your mates setup? We arent talking about his car, so its irrelevant.

So you can either be one of the following.

1) stupid. and spend over $1000 on some jap branded thing

2) smart. purchase a justjap/gtek or some other mid level brand

3) smartest. give me $1300, i'll spray Blitz onto a JJ cooler and give it too ya, and tell you its a Blitz cooler and have a wild night down at the Pink Palace.

You will be hard pressesed to pick the difference. You have a stock turbo, even with a hi-flow, you still wont be outside its boundaries by a long shot.

There are more than enough people making 250rwkw without much of a drama on option number 2, some even more.

Go with option 3 its by far the best

i might not be making 500rwkw but who knows what will happen in the future....id rather spend my money on something good then later buy another intercooler. and my mates car is relevant because his car is pretty much identical to mine. all he has is a bigger turbo....which wont take me long to get aswell.

if ur telling me that justjaps intercoolers are just as good as HKS BLITZ OR ARC....infact anyones....please let me know because from my findings they are not. around the 300rwkw range they seem to fail heavily during heatsoak. and let me tell u 300rwkw is nothing impossible.

so please nismoid dont give me that 1 2 3 crap seriously cuz i can pretty much say already if we both had 300rwkw cars and u slapped a justjap cooler and i went with a hks one.......ud probelry be the one who wasted ur money.

lol but thanks for the humour

oh and just for u guys who asked about my setup.

Full 3" Turbo Back Exhaust

Pod filter

bigger turbo but that fell through when Power FCs were discountinued.....thats the reason why im looking for one....and if i was getting a bigger turbo tahts gonna support around 300rwkws....id want a cooler that does its job good

Edited January 6, 2007 by anDru

[R31Nismoid]

if ur telling me that justjaps intercoolers are just as good as HKS BLITZ OR ARC....infact anyones....please let me know because from my findings they are not.

Please post up your reasearch/testing/finding for us.

Thanks.

[Blitz]

saved up around 6g to buy a souind system but it cant be installed untill like 2 months later. so i thought id spend it on the performance side.

i dont really wanna get one of those justjap intercoolers as i hear when u get to the higher power ends they tend to fail. so i was wondering what sort of cooler would be best suited for high power apps?

i was offered a blitz kit for around 1300.....can i get better?

What power are you planning on chasing?

There are people on this forum pushing up to and over 500hp at the wheels through the intercoolers that Just Jap sells.

Best not to believe everything you hear.

[R34NRG]

What power are you planning on chasing?

There are people on this forum pushing up to and over 500hp at the wheels through the intercoolers that Just Jap sells.

Best not to believe everything you hear.

yeh exactly thats why i asked that in this forum.....if thats the truth id be more then happy to get a jj brand cooler. but ppl just start saying im not even going to be pushing 250rwkw.

i think id be happi pushing just over 300....350 would be awsome. i know its a lil earli atm but with the turbo and the power FC im waiting on i was quoted around 280rwkws

all i want to know is will JJ brand coolers support high end power. or would the branded (or anyothers infact) be better>?

Please post up your reasearch/testing/finding for us.

Thanks.

id be glad to but the thing is these findings aint digital...they are actual friends cars. i had a friend with a 33 and antoher with a supra. both complaining that jj brand coolers are great for low or even mid end power...but wen u start pushing 250+ they start losing power.....the supra mate even bought a Blitz kit and instantly saw the difference.

Edited January 6, 2007 by anDru

[QRI05E]

You should be more concerned about your engine's internals rather then the FMIC at 300+rw/kw... At $345 the Just Jap FMIC kit will be more then enough and if later on you are chasing 300+rw/kw you will only need to change the core to the Just Jap 600 x 300 x 100 FMIC which is only $299 and use the same piping... FMIC cores are almost all the same the difference in Blitz, HKS, Greddy and Just Jap are minimal in most street applications... the difference in price will get you a decent EBC and more...

Cheers