Intercooler Question

[rev210]

anDru,

if you would like a custom matched intercooler for your application then these guys are excellent.

www.are.com.au

Steer clear of the 'bolt on boy' approach and you will get better value for your money spent even if you spend a little more in total.

As they say "buy cheap buy twice"

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Ive had cheap kits, and expensive ones

I couldnt notice any difference whatsoever

IMO the cheap kits do just as good a job - ill be buying one for my 33 soon

[R34NRG]

You should be more concerned about your engine's internals rather then the FMIC at 300+rw/kw... At $345 the Just Jap FMIC kit will be more then enough and if later on you are chasing 300+rw/kw you will only need to change the core to the Just Jap 600 x 300 x 100 FMIC which is only $299 and use the same piping... FMIC cores are almost all the same the difference in Blitz, HKS, Greddy and Just Jap are minimal in most street applications... the difference in price will get you a decent EBC and more...

Cheers

like i said....300+rwkws is something for the future....nothing at present.... id like to have the peace of mind that i already have a cooler that can support me if i do go 300+ rather then thinkin "damnet gotta get another cooler"

get my drift?

anDru,

if you would like a custom matched intercooler for your application then these guys are excellent.

www.are.com.au

Steer clear of the 'bolt on boy' approach and you will get better value for your money spent even if you spend a little more in total.

As they say "buy cheap buy twice"

its a bit hard to deal with someone that isnt located in VIC rev210....especially if its custom work.

Ive had cheap kits, and expensive ones

I couldnt notice any difference whatsoever

IMO the cheap kits do just as good a job - ill be buying one for my 33 soon

yeh but if u had a 50kw car onviously u wouldnt notice the difference. not saying u had a 50kw car but u get my point

Edited January 6, 2007 by anDru

[R31Nismoid]

its a bit hard to deal with someone that isnt located in VIC rev210....especially if its custom work.

you've gotta be kidding dude...

1) Purchase core from ARE

2) Take it to a Vic workshop/fabricator/your best mates old man's brothers mate who thinks he can weld half decently

3) Fit cooler and be happy

Just because a supplier isnt in the same state, does not mean you cant have a cooler fitting to the car.

Fitting custom piping etc isnt expensive.

[R34NRG]

sounds like u got all the answers nismoid....so tell me what do i do if i have some problems with the product......should i fly over to QLD? or maybe i should of bought that jj brand cooler u suggested, or maybe even send the thing back.....wait a few months for a reply only to realise theres no refunds.

is it that hard to believe i would much prefer to deal with someone near me then someone on the other side of the country.

im not saying im going to have these problems with ARE........for all i know they the best company in the world. but i just feel better knowing i can drive down to the shop and see it all happening, instead of waiting at home thinkin god knows wats happening

Edited January 6, 2007 by anDru

[R31Nismoid]

You going to go back to Japan if your Blitz one has a problem?

JJ arent in Melb either

I dont see the problem

[QRI05E]

Andru, why post a thread and ask for advice when your only going to get smart at the advice provided? Nismoid and other forum members have extensive performance experience and will only suggest their opinion to help you out! Of coarse any performance shop will tell you that China copy coolers are rubbish only so they can sell you a product which they are making a larger profit margin on. If I was in your shoes I'd research the forums cause this topic has been covered 100 times... time and time again, Just Jap coolers have been used in large power applications with no issues. As i also stated, at 300+rw/kw a FMIC is the least of your worries. A blitz FMIC won’t save your engine's internals from shattering with 300+rw/kw power levels... so until your ready to spend for a rebuild and large turbo and are aiming to build a 10 sec machine, the Just Jap coolers will fulfill your requirements...

Best of luck!

Regards,

Sarkis

Edited January 6, 2007 by QRI05E

[R34NRG]

You going to go back to Japan if your Blitz one has a problem?

JJ arent in Melb either

I dont see the problem

why would i go back to japan if theres 600 official dealers of Blitz Products in VIC let alone australia.

and the difference between blitz and jj as aposed to ARE....is that one is bolt on....and one is custom.

its alot harder to work with something know ones ever seen before.

u rkn i could walk into any store here in VIC and go "hey by buddy nismoid recommended ARE coolers...they seem okai but it dosnt fit....wat u rkn i should do" or would it be better to walk into the shop i bought it form and tell em...look dosnt fit...fix it

Edited January 6, 2007 by anDru

[R34NRG]

As i also stated, at 300+rw/kw a FMIC is the least of your worries. A blitz FMIC won’t save your engine's internals from shattering with 300+rw/kw power levels... so until your ready to spend for a rebuild and large turbo and are aiming to build a 10 sec machine, the Just Jap coolers will fulfill your requirements...

Best of luck!

Regards,

Sarkis

like i said sarkis.......its for future purposes.....u got a point engine internals would be more importent...but if i get a crappy cooler to start with its only going to add to my problems....can u understand what im saying?

from the sound of things JJ brand coolers are pretty good....i just dont understand why half the ppl say they tend to fail. i have yet to see someone come on and say "i have no problems and ive got 500hp"

thats the reason why im still debating this....thats all...

[R31Nismoid]

u rkn i could walk into any store here in VIC and go "hey by buddy nismoid recommended ARE coolers...they seem okai but it dosnt fit....wat u rkn i should do"

I bet if you walked into a store and used good english... like..

Hi. I have just purcahsed this ARE cooler core. How much would it be to have the piping custom made?

Then your highly likely to get a decent response, a decent price and a cooler fitted for half the cost of something Japanese labelled

[khunjeng]

just for every1s info.

I ran my GKtech Cooler close to 300rwkw...no problems at all basically getting as much power out of the car possible and runs fine all the time on the street. I have run it on 40 degree days...seems to be fine I have never noticed any major issues.

If I was gonna run it on a track...might upgrade to a HKS or ARC and I was thinking of doing that one day...but i have upgraded everything else so its the last thing.

So many people wanna run to 300+ few do...it costs money doods and as mentioned there are so many pieces to the puzzle to get it relaible and make it drivable.

Get some good rims instead and make it look cool. But the GKTech for like 500...seems to go ok for most mild mods and I consider 250-280 mild...

[QRI05E]

I understand where your comming from Andru, and like you i would want to make the right choice when purchasing any performance product... but PRICE Vs BENIFITS = Just Jap

for $345 with everything you need to fit, you cant go worng... even if you decide to sell the kit in 12months time, you will still get $250 - $300...

Regards,

Sarkis

[R34NRG]

I bet if you walked into a store and used good english... like..

Hi. I have just purcahsed this ARE cooler core. How much would it be to have the piping custom made?

Then your highly likely to get a decent response, a decent price and a cooler fitted for half the cost of something Japanese labelled

nismoid thats a pretty stupid statement no offence.....why would i wanna spend even more money fixing it.......when i could of gotten something that worked the 1st time

I understand where your comming from Andru, and like you i would want to make the right choice when purchasing any performance product... but PRICE Vs BENIFITS = Just Jap

for $345 with everything you need to fit, you cant go worng... even if you decide to sell the kit in 12months time, you will still get $250 - $300...

Regards,

Sarkis

but if i buy a blitz kit for 1000 that means i spent 1500 on intercoolers when that extra 500 could of went into injectors or something else.

Edited January 6, 2007 by anDru

[Az_StrYdeR]

anDru,

You have come here and asked what people think you should do, but you seem to have all the information that you need. You obviously already had your mind made up before you asked the question. I say stick with the information you already have, get your self a Blitz and be happy...

Unless you get a Jap brand cooler, your not going to be satisfied that its going to do the job you require, so get one.

These guys have extensive knowledge, through experience. If I recall, I think R31Nismoid had a 360rwkw car last time I got any figures? What was/is it Nismoid?

Unless you want some good critical advice, dont bother asking questions.

[R31Nismoid]

nismoid thats a pretty stupid statement no offence.....why would i wanna spend even more money fixing it.......when i could of gotten something that worked the 1st time

but if i buy a blitz kit for 1000 that means i spent 1500 on intercoolers when that extra 500 could of went into injectors or something else.

what are you talking about?

[R34NRG]

anDru,

You have come here and asked what people think you should do, but you seem to have all the information that you need. You obviously already had your mind made up before you asked the question. I say stick with the information you already have, get your self a Blitz and be happy...

Unless you get a Jap brand cooler, your not going to be satisfied that its going to do the job you require, so get one.

These guys have extensive knowledge, through experience. If I recall, I think R31Nismoid had a 360rwkw car last time I got any figures? What was/is it Nismoid?

Unless you want some good critical advice, dont bother asking questions.

my apologizes if i have made this sound a lil one sided.......but believe it or not i dont have all the answers. nismoid proberly does have exstensive knowledge and thank god he does cuz i wouldnt want any less, but i just really hate going with somethign that will end up costing me more. or even worse spending to much on something that i could have got for half price.

i just wanna clarify that any critisism is taken into account maturely and no offence is taken. this is a proper discussion and i want to keep it that way

what are you talking about?

they are 2 different comments nismoid..try seperating them

Edited January 6, 2007 by anDru

[R34NRG]

i think ill conclude this discussion because i think its gettin a lil side tracked..

ill give the JJ brands a go and pray that they hold their ground.

everyone will be hearing from me if they dont....LOL...cheers guys...especially u nismoid...always a plesure to deal with someone like urself

[QRI05E]

In simplest terms:

Stock internals (250 - 300rw/kw) = Just Jap FMIC

Rebuilt engine + forged internals + track use (350+rw/kw) = Custom ARE FMIC

Hope this helps

Regards,

Sarkis

[Az_StrYdeR]

Like I said before, just get a Jap cooler. If you get a JJ cooler you will always look at it and wish it was a Jap one.

If your running for a 400rwkw car, then theres no point getting anything else, besides if thats the power you want, you must be loaded... so just do it... and then dont come back whinging

[R34NRG]

u no wat az......if that was the logical and right choice.....id defiently do it.