Craved Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 taken from Pauls power FC FAQ .. http://members.dodo.com.au/paul/docs/power...erfc-faq.htm#41 "Airtemp sensor on unsupported car? Some PowerFC's have support for the AirTemp sensor under MONITOR but the car itself does not utilize a factory air temp inlet sensor. I attempted to hook up an airtemp sensor on my ECR33 PowerFC and fried the powerfc and damaged a sensor on my car. The concept was to look at which pin on the BNR33 PowerFC the air temp sensor was connected on and then try and replicate this on the ECR33 PowerFC. I tried this and it did not work, I tried an adjacent wire and it fried the PowerFC. It has since been fixed and all is working but I do not recommend you try to get this working. It may work out costly like it could have been in my case. " Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1945893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Thats for the R33.. We are discussing the R32 PFC. SK really needs to clarify again. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1945963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 taken from Pauls power FC FAQ ..http://members.dodo.com.au/paul/docs/power...erfc-faq.htm#41 "Airtemp sensor on unsupported car? Some PowerFC's have support for the AirTemp sensor under MONITOR but the car itself does not utilize a factory air temp inlet sensor. I attempted to hook up an airtemp sensor on my ECR33 PowerFC and fried the powerfc and damaged a sensor on my car. The concept was to look at which pin on the BNR33 PowerFC the air temp sensor was connected on and then try and replicate this on the ECR33 PowerFC. I tried this and it did not work, I tried an adjacent wire and it fried the PowerFC. It has since been fixed and all is working but I do not recommend you try to get this working. It may work out costly like it could have been in my case. " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes this mod works fine for BNR32 + HR32 PowerFC. Only ECR33 PowerFC it goes bang Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1945973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craved Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 oh. whoops .. damn sucks for us thiwas the only mention of it that i had seen. nice FAQ though Paul ! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1946007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 ah i see your on ecr33 powerfc, hehe yeah it doesnt work feel free to try though Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1946015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craved Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 umm i think i'll learn from your examples thanks Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1946038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 haha yeah good idea shoulda seen the look on my face when i had pacman characters running around on the hand controller screen and pshyco ticking noises coming from the powerfc Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1946151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craved Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 haha yeah good ideashoulda seen the look on my face when i had pacman characters running around on the hand controller screen and pshyco ticking noises coming from the powerfc <{POST_SNAPBACK}> im sure that would have been followed by some VERY colourful words :lol: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1946448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielson Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 hey guys. im new to sau, but i jst thort id thro my 2c worth in... im currently building a rb25/30 setup, using a complete factory rb30et bottom end, crank rods and pistons, rb25det head, my current hi flowed xtr turbo,850cc powerflow injectors,haltech ecu, rb26dett water pump, stock oil pump, thru a r33 gtst manusl box...iv been told it will be good for 3/320rwkw...duz this sound rite 2 u? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1946491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 you're using the 30eT bottom end? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1946882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneykid Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 (edited) hey guys. im new to sau, but i jst thort id thro my 2c worth in... im currently building a rb25/30 setup, using a complete factory rb30et bottom end, crank rods and pistons, rb25det head, my current hi flowed xtr turbo,850cc powerflow injectors,haltech ecu, rb26dett water pump, stock oil pump, thru a r33 gtst manusl box...iv been told it will be good for 3/320rwkw...duz this sound rite 2 u? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If it's a high flowed RB20DET turbo it will run out of airflow at around 260 rwkw If it's a high flowed RB25DET turbo it will run out of airflow at around 270 rwkw If it's a high flowed RB25DET Neo turbo it will run out of airflow at around 280 rwkw That's not your main problem, the RB30ET pistons with an RB25 head will have very, very low compression ratio (in the 7's). That's why we use the RB30E. cheers Edited February 14, 2006 by Sydneykid Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1947150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielson Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 with the rb30e, are the stock rods and slugs strong enough to take the beating? or a $2500 aftermarket jobs the go? think cheap, thats wat im trying to do.... i know i know, cheap usualling ends up being "cheap", but i dnt av THAT ammount of money lying around atm... I just want to build a torquey motor, turbo upgrade can wait. so 270kw? a the wheels im guessing? why did this guy tell me 320? is he just having a wank? or is he just trying to get work from me? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1948187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bl4cK32 Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 any motor can be a tough motor, it depends on how good the tuning is Im only running 220 rwkw and its a torquey motor. 420Nm (? dunno the scale) and it pulls like a freight train Over 300rwkw and its only a tyre frying machine. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1948213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Daniel... As some one prior suggested the RB30ET blocks apparently have piston oil squirters. You having access to an rb30et block can you confirm this? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1948266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielson Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 The rb30 vl type blocks dont have oil squirters. only the rb20,25,26 have them. a lot of ppl put the rb25det squirters in the rb30 conversions tho... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1948294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRgeoff Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 This pic illustrates the close curved lines a little better.Sorry Geoff.. I don't follow the Cap'n... Do you mean repeated high load that attempts to and may very well slightly bend the teeth every time? A little like breaking a coat hanger by bending it repeatedly. So definitely rb30 related? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry mate, I missed the question. Wasn't meaning to be rude. Basically all steel things have a fatigue load limit. Below that load you can load infinitely (faults notwithstanding) and it won't fail, but increase the load, or in this case torque, and eventually it will start to crack slightly more and more each load cycle until the cross sectional area holding it is too small and just lets go, like the coathanger. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1948317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneykid Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 The rb30 vl type blocks dont have oil squirters. only the rb20,25,26 have them. a lot of ppl put the rb25det squirters in the rb30 conversions tho... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's a bustard of a job (= costly), and only about 2 in 10 RB30 blocks are suitable. Ceramic coat the piston crowns and oil retention coat the skirts, just as effective. cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1948320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielson Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 how is it only 1 in 10 are suitable? arent the blocks all made the same? or individually cast.....lol but seriously hows that possible? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1948346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
platinum Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 No RB30 blocks (be it from an RB30ET or RB30E) have oil squirters stock. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1949285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 I need to find the bloke who stated the rb30et blocks have oil squirters... Thread was around here some where. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/15420-r33-rb30-conversion/page/146/#findComment-1949933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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