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Hondas piss me off, i have in the past had trouble beating some of these buggers and yet they can pay 5k for a VTEC and i pay 15k for my R34 and they are nearly if not gruntier, i know they have the power to weight factor on there side but still come on......... what do you think?

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what type of honda are we talking about buddy

my brother drives a civis vtir and its slow as

my sister drives an accord vtir and its slow as

my aunty drives a integra type r and its ok

but u should be beating them in your 34 (im assuming its turbo) sorry just saw u r not turbo even still u should be beating civic and accord vtecs

now an s2000 thats a quick piece of machinery with like 175kw so i could understand them beating u anything alse but and i think it comes down to driver skill

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^^hairdresser2000? no thanks.

ur gettn beaten by honda vtecs cause ur in heavier slower car. simple.

hi i didnt say i was getting beaten everytime, my skill is quite sufficent as my first car when i was 15 was a 351 xr falcon 67 and i have driven many a old school and quite a few modern japs, the point is that for the money you pay and the rep of the skyline i would assume that some 94 integras that are worth a smidging of the price are just as quick, maybe the Vtec is more supperior then the VCT the skylines have?

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^^hairdresser2000? no thanks.

ur gettn beaten by honda vtecs cause ur in heavier slower car. simple.

Yea you could say its heavier and slower... my mate had a 180sx with just the simple mods.. boost fmic and that but he was beaten by an integra type R... my suggestion to my friend being beaten is that he's a shit driver cos the 180 is just as light as the type R and he's got turbo...

Maybe STLKHR's R34 is auto and bone stock???

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Yea you could say its heavier and slower... my mate had a 180sx with just the simple mods.. boost fmic and that but he was beaten by an integra type R... my suggestion to my friend being beaten is that he's a shit driver cos the 180 is just as light as the type R and he's got turbo...

Maybe STLKHR's R34 is auto and bone stock???

haha well yes it is a tiptronic but hey i get as quick or quicker gear changers then some, also it is realivty stock at the mo, but still out of the factory for both cars it would seem the Honda is still quicker. my one is a non turbo but i still got alot of torque !

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a dc2r will run to 100 in 6.2 sec.......and in now way is that slow.

uve got a non turbo auto skyline. 'skyline rep' as u put it, is based on the turbo manuals, espeically th GTR's.

yes i agree but im stating that how can nissan charge a hell of a lot more money then honda for there cars, and yes i know one reason is that nissan is BETTER haha

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Back when i had my 180 (sr20det, cat back exhaust, airfilter, 8psi) i had a dc2r with an exhaust keep up with me

The type r are pretty quick, they had no trouble beating stock 200sx/skylines etc

Once we do a few mods and wind up the boost they cant keep up but for what they are out of the box its fantastic

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