Quigga Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 (edited) http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....howtopic=226144 full tutorial i got it workin ive posted on this site but waiting for it to clear Edited July 29, 2007 by Quigga Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMike Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Seen it done plenty of times, usually with bosch GT40's (essentially the same thing) wiring is extreemly basic, just extend and add the right plug not too sure how the ignitor would hold up.....can't see there being a problem though Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3242269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 There are a couple of threads on here on how to do it with different coilpacks. Unfortunately the igniters dont handle it so well, as these coils have a much higher current draw, and th other problem is the ignition dwell time isnt suited to the se big coils, so they dont fully charge(saturate), hence you dont really get the full benefit of the big coil. I dont think ive ever heard of a splitfire dying, all the people that ive heard of having problems with them are because they fit splitfires to fix something which wasnt the coils. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3242371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigga Posted July 21, 2007 Author Share Posted July 21, 2007 is there a ignighter thats cheap and easy to substitute maybe even the vl one? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3242400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 is there a ignighter thats cheap and easy to substitute maybe even the vl one? Could definately use 6 VL ones, but it still doesnt get around the recharge time. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3242421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboedsloth Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 can u upgrade the ignitor pack to handle the coil packs? is there anything out there that is suitable Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3242585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigga Posted July 22, 2007 Author Share Posted July 22, 2007 can u upgrade the ignitor pack to handle the coil packs? is there anything out there that is suitable lol thats my question Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3242885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arep3 Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 ive seen splitfire coilpacks to suit my GTR for $350. if the cheapest you have seen is for $600, then id suggest you look a bit more. easier then modding the wiring looms and changing the igniter. My 2c anyway Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3243256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arep3 Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 but if you wanna go the VL route, couldnt you use a VL igniter? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3243268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acsplit Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 with a remap or someone with good remap skills the dwell time can be altered. vlcoil packs are a waste of time just buy spitfires Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3243307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johanz Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 Over here (in Malaysia) we use Mitsubishi 6A12 (2.0 V6) coilpacks due to the lack of reliability of stock RB coils. But we use Megasquirt instead of stock ecu or Power FC... So far only 1 or 2 cars used this setup (experimental stage) and so far there's no problem... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3243432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboedsloth Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 how about hyundai sonata coilpacks. the 3 packs of 2 coils if you know what i mean. like the commodore ones but for a hyundai Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3245334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigga Posted July 24, 2007 Author Share Posted July 24, 2007 Over here (in Malaysia) we use Mitsubishi 6A12 (2.0 V6) coilpacks due to the lack of reliability of stock RB coils. But we use Megasquirt instead of stock ecu or Power FC... So far only 1 or 2 cars used this setup (experimental stage) and so far there's no problem... how about hyundai sonata coilpacks. the 3 packs of 2 coils if you know what i mean. like the commodore ones but for a hyundai thanks for ideas but to keep to a tried and true type msg, also running fairly stock so adjusting recharge wont really be a major issue, so ill just use rb ignighter and VL coils, ill do a lil writeup after as well to help ppl in my situation later on Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3246778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybarge Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 hey man, parts needed: VN Coilpack(the square type one, or the round, i've got the squarer one, because it looks better against my firewall) VL set of sparkleads, shouldn't be too much or mix and match your own just get the NGK or Eagle ones from supercheap use a VN coilpack(Block of three coils with 2 spark leads on each side) they are round $60-80 new i think? try the local holden dealer sell your old coils for whatever yuo get for them, usually $20 each or so(here in NZ anyway, not much because they are poo) keep the coil loom, cut the wires at the end, label them all though for each cylinder, then wire them up, i think it goes 1/6(first coil 2/5(second coil) 3/6(third coil) It'll make it dead easy to change sparkies as well I think if you want to use the original VL coilpack, you'd need some way of firing it? because it's dizzy standard isn't it? not sure if an ignitor would work in that sense, although it could do Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3248348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigga Posted July 25, 2007 Author Share Posted July 25, 2007 Ah thankyou thankyou thats exactly wat i was looking for, VN ones not VL would be the go the ignitor isnt really an issue yet Like before ill do a writeup with photos when i do it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3248412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKiT_R31 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 (edited) if the ignitor cant handle the current draw, what about relays? 6x GT40's with relays direct to the battery, would be ideal wouldnt it? and on that note, what about adding capacitors etc? Edited July 25, 2007 by SKiT_R31 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3248962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 Relays aren't fast enough, but 6 vl ones would be fine Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3249551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigga Posted July 27, 2007 Author Share Posted July 27, 2007 edited first post please HELP! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3254728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJRIFT Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 this is a reply to the first post. vn coil pack fire both sparks together. on a vn it will be matched to one cylender that is on its power stroke and one cylender that is on its exhaust stroke to burn any unburnt fuel. it all helps with emissions. so you need to make sure yours is firing on the exhaust and power stroke of matching cylenders. i know this has been said before but this realy is a crap way to go about fixing spark problems. firstly you get a break down of spark by having high tensile leads. coil packs are right on the spark plug. having the coils mounted on the firewall is going to induce more heat than the coil packs would get. nissan designed coil packs to sit where they do and they didnt expect someone to9 mod their engine 17years later and expect them to hold up to it. the coil packs are mounted at the front of a vn commo so they get cooling from the rad fan. oh i am sure you know anyway. just get some spitfires. slide and croyden are in a bidding war at the moment at having the cheapest spitfires in aus. you could get a set for $500. that cheap. just do that. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3254850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead32 Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 ive been running el coil pack on my car with leads for some time now, spark jumps as far as the grand canyon, its up to you. spend the $500 for a bolt in coil pack that looks neat and can run std dwell, or bolt in a diff pack with leads and run more dwell= bigger charge and greater spark therefore better burn and more power is made, they f**kout due to the heat from being bolted to the cylinder head, i can guarantee you mounting it on the firewall would be not as hot for the coil. ive seen the el pack on rb26 t88 make well into 700bhp with no issue's std ignitor. however this was dyno time only, dont know how long it lasted this way. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/177546-vn-coilpacks-on-silvertop-rb20det/#findComment-3254861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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