Drama Ben Glover A Member Of Sau Is Trying To Rip Me Off

[Rorge]

Hey guys, i'm new here, but some of you may know me as the administrator for www.performanceforums.com..

Mid july i found an EBC for sale on here. Just a simple plain old Profec A with solenoid... I got in touch with the seller BEN GLOVER via email and we decided on a price etc. I paid him the money and he said he'd sent the item.. It never arrived and now he's not replying to my emails... surprise surprise... It also appears he may have deleted the thread on here??

Here's the emails between the two of us..

his email from 02/07/07

well its the original Profec but everything is there bar vacuum lines.

Its $170 delivered and bank details are as follows:

Ben Glover

**********

BSB: ******

ACC: ******

Leave your name as the reference and send me the address to which you want

it delivered )

my reply

>Hey Ben just wondered if you'd sent that boost controller as it hasn't

>arrived here yet!

>

>Thanks, George.

his response 12/07/07

Hey cobber

yeah sent it over a week ago you should of had it by now???

my reply 19/07/07

>I've been in touch with Australia post and they havn't seen it, nor has it

>arrived here Ben! Not sure what to do! Australia post suggested you call

>them and put in a query about it and they may be able to find it!

>

>Thanks, George.

his response 22/07/07

Hey George

i will give them a call and follow it up first thing this arvo when i get

home.

Im sorry again for the delay's with it, from now on EVERYTHING i send will

be registered post (

Cheers Ben

my reply 13/08/07

>Ben, i'm expecting you to get back to me on this!!

>What did Australia Post say?

>At this stage having not heard from you, i'd like my money back.

>

>George.

his reply 17/08/07

Hey George

AP located parcel and advised it would be delivered within 2 days, i didn't

hear anything else so i just assumed you received it. SORRY i should of

followed it up with you.

I will get onto them ASAP and let you know what happened.

Sorry again

Cheers Ben

my reply 21/08/07

Hey Ben, now that you say Australia Post has located the parcel surely that

would mean you've got a tracking number for it!

I'd either like the tracking number, the parcel, or my money back. I don't

want to be an asshole about this but it's been like 2 months! WHAT IS THE

DEAL?

George.

I hate to cause hassles and create drama, but as you can see this is beyond a joke now!

I was hoping some of you on here could assist...?

Does anyone know Ben? He's from tasmania... that's about all i know! I don't even know his username on here??

[Richieb]

If this is the case,I would try 'prodding' the commonwealth bank, they should have some of his details on record, and askthem what course of action to take here-on.

OR, contact the Police, askthem what the next step is.

My 2cents.

[Silvia GTR]

Seriously why the f**k cant people earn money like the rest of us?

This seems to be happening all too often these days...

I hope get your moolah back mate

[Rorge]

Thanks for the responses guys! I found out who he is on here, so i'll pm him, maybe he checks on here more than his email????

[m3gtr]

its not just the blatant scamming that makes my blood boil but the way he lied through his teeth to you too./..the guy deserves a smack in the head..

take the bank details and contact admin on the forum. A trader got arrested just recently so im sure if admin gave you the wankers details you could forward them to the police..

good luck getting your cash back.

[Richieb]

Be sure there is not a genuine reason before you let the dogs loose though, don't give someone a kicking, and then regret it..!

[m3gtr]

Be sure there is not a genuine reason before you let the dogs loose though, don't give someone a kicking, and then regret it..!

2 months and no item. return of emails etc isnt enough cause or reason to act?

me thinks it is. "Release the hooouunds!"

i wonder how long itll be before the mod pulls the pin on this thread.?

[Richieb]

Just trying to be balanced a bit here. It is difficult to condemn anyone without knowing both sides though.

Devils advocate I think is the word. I dont know either party here, but am not saying there is a right or wrong. You have a case, which really needs an answer, let's see what develops...?!?

I guess i'd be a bit cheesed orrrf after 2 months though!!

[ctjet]

IBTL

[Blitz]

its not just the blatant scamming that makes my blood boil but the way he lied through his teeth to you too./..the guy deserves a smack in the head..

Adam, do us all a favour and refrain from shooting your mouth off with inflammatory statements like the above.

You don't know the facts, and you are not directly involved in this transaction, so keep your mouth shut rather than sighting this thread as another chance to jump on the flaming bandwagon and throw your 2 cents in - This helps nobody.

If the thread starter is talking about the Ben Glover that im thinking of, there will no doubt be more to this story as this person is a long running and respected member of the SAU community.

take the bank details and contact admin on the forum. A trader got arrested just recently so im sure if admin gave you the wankers details you could forward them to the police..

Thats right, a scammer was arrested, for blatantly ripping people off for possibly tens of thousands of dollars.

This transaction is for one used Profec boost controller worth $170 - Hardly an amount that warrants intentionally ripping of another member.

Rorge: This was approached entirely the wrong way - In future, you should exhaust every possible avenue of contacting the seller in question to try and find some resolve, and failing that contact a moderator or administrator directly before you resort to creating a defamitory thread like this.

Note that moderators and administrators on SAU do not take sides in situations like this but we will step in to mediate in the interests of having such issues resolved as quickly as possible.

[Zoggy]

IBTL X 2

f*kn hate people who steal

[m3gtr]

Adam, do us all a favour and refrain from shooting your mouth off with inflammatory statements like the above.

You don't know the facts, and you are not directly involved in this transaction, so keep your mouth shut rather than sighting this thread as another chance to jump on the flaming bandwagon and throw your 2 cents in - This helps nobody.

If the thread starter is talking about the Ben Glover that im thinking of, there will no doubt be more to this story as this person is a long running and respected member of the SAU community.

Rorge: This was approached entirely the wrong way - In future, you should exhaust every possible avenue of contacting the seller in question to try and find some resolve before you resort to creating a defamitory thread like this.

Note that moderators and administrators on SAU do not take sides in situations like this but we will step in to mediate in the interests of having such issues resolved as quickly as possible.

Nick, i based my opinion on the facts i was given. To me its unnacceptable given the length of time and persistence of the buyer. To you he might be more than what Op is claiming him to be and perhaps youre biased because of it.

You have to respect my right to state my opinion although i couldve toned it down a little. no need to get all twisted over it.

Case in point, Poida bought a set of supra calipers for his soarer off a dude here in tokyo and dropped 6 man on them, sent the money and everyting but many weeks later and the calpiers didnt sow. Pete set about casing the dude but he got away and pete got the shaft...even the cops couldnt do anything about it.

it was almost a carbon copy of this situation. You think im flaming. Im pissed off just thinking about it.

MY 2 cents mate. Im entitled to them. get over it.

Edited August 24, 2007 by m3gtr

[m3gtr]

havent you noticed Nick, that there are a few people on here already who think theres been something dodgy going on?

[Bullet32]

IBTL??

[m3gtr]

IBTL stands for..I Beat The Lock.

This threads going to get shut down soon in other words.

[Bullet32]

Rrrright... And why would you want to beat the lock?

[Blitz]

havent you noticed Nick, that there are a few people on here already who think theres been something dodgy going on?

Well, case closed then

You have NO IDEA of the specific details of whats gone on here, and neither does anyone else apart from the thread starter and the seller who is a moderator of this forum and extremely well known!. You have simply stumbled across this thread, read something about a possible 'scam' and jumped on board the bandwagon with your assumptions and comments about the party involved, which you have absolutely no factual basis for.

Stay out of this - Your hot-headed attitude which is disturbingly common thesedays will not help resolve this issue.

I have no doubt that this can be sorted out quickly, and if the seller had escalated this in an appropriate fashion, contacting another moderator or administrator in the first instance, then this would have no doubt been sorted out.

Frankly, as a moderator of another prominant automotive forum, the approach that the thread starter has taken to try and work this out leaves a LOT to be desired.

[WogsRus]

well i know ben well, and he is not a dogy trader at all, i am sure that there is a legitimate reason to this, have you PM him recently.

[m3gtr]

Well, case closed then

You have NO IDEA of the specific details of whats gone on here, and neither does anyone else apart from the thread starter and the seller who is a moderator of this forum and extremely well known!. You have simply stumbled across this thread, read something about a possible 'scam' and jumped on board the bandwagon with your assumptions and comments about the party involved, which you have absolutely no factual basis for.

Stay out of this - Your hot-headed attitude which is disturbingly common thesedays will not help resolve this issue.

I have no doubt that this can be sorted out quickly, and if the seller had escalated this in an appropriate fashion, contacting another moderator or administrator in the first instance, then this would have no doubt been sorted out.

Frankly, as a moderator of another prominant automotive forum, the approach that the thread starter has taken to try and work this out leaves a LOT to be desired.

fine. I have my reasons you have yours. Why for the life of me someone would come on here and start a defamation thread against a "well known and respected trader on these forums" is beyond me. And since when has SAU been here to monitor and /or police disputes between members? Thats for the authorities to decide.

If OP really thinks hes been ripped off report it to the police ASAP.

If Mr Ben is clean, he should get on this forum ASAP and explain whats going on because the frrum has been dragged into this and is reputation is in question.

Im making complete sense here and perhaps you just dont want to acknowledge that, Nick.

[Blitz]

Please guys, no more posts in this thread unless you are A) The thread starter or B) The seller in question.

Warnings will be issued to those that want to stick their nose in.

Rorge: You only signed up to SAU today, have you tried to pm or phone Ben or have you only used email to communicate with him?