Ac Re-gas

[gtrkiet]

as stated in the top tital, where do i go to get my air con re gas >,< weather gettin hot now think its time to re gas. lol

[Cubes]

If its factory R12 have it refilled with R12A as its more efficient, easier on your a/c pump, hoses etc and environ friendly to the atmo than R134A.

Don't confuse R12A with R12.

Its also a LOT cooler and you don't feel the power sap when you turn the a/c on UNLIKE R134A.

You'll need to find some one licensed to deal with it; a lot of the people are not so if they try to bag it in order to sell you crappy R134A then go somewhere else.

The bloke I use is on O'Sullivans beach road Lonsdale. Forget the name of the place; he's on the northern side of the road around half way down.

[gtrkiet]

ok thanks. R12A

[Race__24]

I went to PROFIX to do mine, thinking it's only regasing, any idiot can do it. WRONG they overfilled it, went to nissan and they did it for less anyway.

[gtrkiet]

ill just go nissan and tell dem to use R12A i think dat would be the best place to go lol.

[AFTDRK]

oh damn, i better get that done too

R12A at Nissan, any idea how much it costs ?

[gtrkiet]

should be under 100 bucks i think i re gas my mums VT and it cost 50 bucks

[Cubes]

R12A is a tad more expensive even though its basically BBQ gas.

Mine cost $138 for a vac and refill with dye. From quotes I received around 120-140 was the going price.

I was told to avoid the R134a with the R32/R33's air con compressor as its not designed and doesn't cope well with the high head pressure of the R134A gas. I remember when I had R134a in mine; it noticeably sapped power and made the aircon compressor audible inside the car.

The R134a is apparently 20% less efficient so it places a greater head demand on the condenser which in turn pushes hotter air through to your radiator and places a greater parasitic load on the motor via the compressor.

Only 'some' places deal with R12A is because in large quantities its highly flammable and apparently requires a license to work/purchase it.

[gtrkiet]

what was the place u went too? do you have their number if so dat wouild be really helpful.

[SLY R33]

ring a guy called The Cool King, he comes in our work and re-gases all our cars that need to be done!

[gtrkiet]

nissans doesnt do R12A the guy their knew where i could go but he said he cant tell me? ahhaha and another guy said good luck in finding a place that do R12A.. ive been to a few places no1 seem to have R12A =/ damit!

[Cubes]

O'Sullivans beach road Lonsdale

I 'think' they are called Coolway air.

I'll pop the bonnet tomorrow and have a look at the sticker.

http://www.autosite.com.au/autosearch/auto...il.asp?id=19125

[gtrkiet]

oh ok kool, i live in paralowie/ salisbury way how far is it from my area would u kno i have no idea where that area is. ><

[Madaz]

my mates a fridgy he can do it but not sure of the gases he uses if you like i can ask him charges $50 he topped mine up and no probs does all my mates cars qualified fridgy with riaceM

[gtrkiet]

yea be good if he used R12A lol i want my air con to be cold this summer >,< i want it as cold as the CAMRY air cons if whoever owns a camry they know what i meen ahahaha those things got awson ac

[Cubes]

When I first had mine regassed it wasn't that cold... Checked out the aircon evaporator and it was covered in dusty junk that was impossible to remove. Replaced the evap core with a clean one and it was so so cold it would make your bones hurt in your hand when placing it in front of the vent.

It would also make your cheeks very cold to the point where I used to manually turn down the a/c on fan speed 2.

Putting the multimeters temp probe in front of the vet I was seeing 0-2degree's. Super Icy.

[gtrkiet]

i want ur air con lol

[Madaz]

ok heres the facts from a fridgy

R134a A/C systems run a synthetic based oil in the compressor, its in all new cars from '94' onwards

R12 is mineral, running either or in the wrong system WILL do damage to your compressor, which in turn will put more load on the compressor and give you that zap in power

my mate was very disgusted in the R12A is a tad more expensive even though its basically BBQ gas. statement and had this to say about it

R12a if CLAIMED to be LPG, is a timebomb waiting to happen as soon as you get a leak and a spark or point of high heat say a turbo

he said there is about 4-5 replacements for R12 and that he has a chart with all the different options

the one that kept comming to mind was ICEON 39 aka R413a

now further to my research on the R12a because my mate wasnt sure what the 'a' ment he said sound like some kind of blend but had no idea so i told him its somthing i can google and i come up with this

R12a is the popular name for a hydrocarbon refrigerant blend made up of a mixture of propane and butane. These blends are highly flammible and you assume some risk by using them but they do work very well in most applications. Do your own research and perform a good risk assessment on your car first before using one...

As for 134a not all vehicles are good candidates. You need a good sized condenser and powerful fans to make up for the 20% efficiency loss. With the price of 134a increasing and no relief in sight you may want to consider keeping it r12.

CLICK last quote

[Cubes]

lol the bbq gas statement was not to be taken seriously.. But as you can see (propane/butane) it is partially a bbq gas.

The 'if claimed to be bbq gas/disgusted' statement; it doesn't sound like he knows what R12a is??

I spoke to the gas bloke who's a neighbour and deals with R12a before having mine gassed.

He said its definitely not a time bomb in a cars a/c system like many say. The amount of gas within an a/c system he said its not dangerous and is no more dangerous than R134a. It requires a naked flame to ignite as does R134a.

The large amounts used at a workshop yes it is. He said within the industry he has never heard of R12a causing an explosion within a vehicles a/c system.

Also after a little googling it appears R134a is flammable at 720degree's and R12a at 890degree's.

So a lot of people who don't really know make a lot of generalisations. I remember something being mentioned of why R134a has become the gas of new car a/c systems; something to do with the people who make it; politics and being in bed with car manufacturers.

The bloke across the road said not to worry and go with it as its a good thing.

[Madaz]

ok so thats the flammable side of things explained how do you explain mineral oil systems and synthetic and the 2 shouldn't be mixed