Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Trozzle]

That's exactly where I get my crippling muscle cramps occasionally from deadlifts...

[TTT]

I assumed it was my vagina there on my lower back, cause when I complained about it Markos said it sounds like a bruised vagina.

[No Crust Racing]

Sounds like a good way for long lasting/permanent injury, we better just ignore it and go for gold

[TTT]

they make some cool wheelchairs these days so it's not all that bad.

[Trozzle]

I've simply given up on deadlifts indefinitely. I'm not a power lifter, I give no f**ks for them if it's just going to consistently end in crippling pain. Sure, it's more than likely just incorrect form - but what it breaks down to is it being easier to just not do them any more lol.

[No Crust Racing]

I find SLDL easier on my back personally, I assume that lanky legs makes the set up and lift off portion harder to do safely/easier to stuff up, perhaps wide stance is a better choice?

I will stick with SLDL as I just find it that bit safer for me and my obvious back weakness/poor form.

[Birds]

I find SLDL easier on my back personally, I assume that lanky legs makes the set up and lift off portion harder to do safely/easier to stuff up, perhaps wide stance is a better choice?

I will stick with SLDL as I just find it that bit safer for me and my obvious back weakness/poor form.

I used to think this way, was happily doing sets of 10x120kg on stiff leggeds...thought it was decent and was happy because regular deadlift form seemed retarded to me; I just couldn't do it; couldn't get the bar past my knees easily etc. Then one day I reset my form to try off the ground...starting with like 70kg. You get use to it quickly. Have since far surpassed what I was doing on stiff leggeds. Such a better exercise! I never ended up dizzy after stiffs; after off the ground I want to faint...

[No Crust Racing]

I may do the same when my back is stronger, I think easier is a good thing for me at the moment while my back and shoulders comes to terms with actually doing some work.

[TTT]

I've simply given up on deadlifts indefinitely. I'm not a power lifter, I give no f**ks for them if it's just going to consistently end in crippling pain. Sure, it's more than likely just incorrect form - but what it breaks down to is it being easier to just not do them any more lol.

Yeah I've given up on Bench in that sense.

Haven't benched in like 2 months until yesterday when I went in to test openers for this weekends comp.

I managed 100kg which was ok'ish speed.. enough to open on.

My previous best in comp was 110kg,,

lol.

[No Crust Racing]

Does bench give you grief?

[TTT]

Yeah shoulder and elbows.

My point is, I have/had a weak bench. so I benched more. this hurt my shoulder/scap.. So I started doing more chins and rows and scap stuff to strengthen the opposite side of chest, this gave me elbow issues (tennis and golfers elbow)... so I gave up on it.

Didn't bench, row or chin for 2 months.

I'm 6kg less than when I benched 110 and then benched 100. Will probably get 105 on the weekend.

All I really care about right now is to get my squat up as it is the one lift giving me the least grief.

States this weekend then Nationals in June. If I don't get any NEW pains I'll be happy.

Edited April 2, 2013 by TTT

[No Crust Racing]

Fair enough, I think you have different goals than me, and likely others, so us avoiding a lift is less detrimental than it might be for you.

Especially in my case where it's purely for a combination of not looking like a 60kg IT desk jockey and general health and well being.

[jangles]

I'm haven't entered comps, but it completely sucks not being able to do these major exercises.

Squats and deads are the best exercises that can be done. Doing 4 other exercises to achieve same thing seems stupid IMO.

[No Crust Racing]

With what goal in mind?

[jangles]

My goal was to lose fat, strengthen my legs after I got them operating correctly, mobilise my body from shift work numbing it to a point where I couldn't be bothered doing anything and to do it in as little time as possible.

Within a month i realised I'm not a fan of spending hours in a gym.

Edited April 2, 2013 by jangles

[No Crust Racing]

Ahh ok so efficiency is part of the desire for the more efficient compound lifts - fair enough.

Edited April 2, 2013 by ActionDan

[jangles]

Efficiency at becoming the strongest I can in the most efficient ways, whilst achieving fat loss and muscle gain.

I didn't switch to these after a month, I just realised how so many people around me are forever in the gym not seeming to change, shape, size, strength

Edited April 2, 2013 by jangles

[NickR33]

I just realised how so many people around me are forever in the gym not seeming to change, shape, size, strength

you wonder why they keep coming back... I guess it does help you feel good after a day at work... but for the time, money and energy spent I want more than just a bit of a buzz

[No Crust Racing]

What's to say they aren't just maintaining general fitness or recovering from an injury and doing physio, let alone doing it purely for enjoyment.

Being in the gym for any reason is better than someone putting strain on the public health care system due to poor health when it can be helped.

Easy for me to say though when these people aren't getting in my way.

Edited April 2, 2013 by ActionDan

[jangles]

you wonder why they keep coming back... I guess it does help you feel good after a day at work... but for the time, money and energy spent I want more than just a bit of a buzz

My point exactly nick. Going through the same old motions, doing same old weights.

I wouldn't spend money on upgrades for my car for it to be the same as it was.