Need New Brakes

[NA_Goodness]

Hey guys,

Yesterday I nearly ran up the back of a Camry because they had to brake suddenly to stop at a yellow light. I thought I was going to run up the back of them!! I know I need new brakes, but I didnt think they were that bad.

Here are my two options:

1. I can get my hands on some R33 GTS-T parts for under a $1k. These include hubs, rotors, calipers, master cylinder, and LSD diff.

2. Keep the 4-stud hubs and upgrade the rotors and calipers for aftermarket items. Rotors would be BDA, slotted and possibly drilled, but I'm not sure about the calipers.

Which would be cheaper to do, and what would be better? I love my car, my license, and I do not want to hit/harm/kill anyone or anything because my brakes are shit. Any help would be appreciated.

Rhys

[tacker]

Rhys,

lots of options about i use G4 and find them very good or you could just refurbish your old brakes as they are getting on in years.

New seals, pads and rotors and it should be a improvement.

[Duncan]

I'd be surprised if your standard brakes can't do 1 stop if they are in good condition.

is the pedal mushy? does it vibrate underfoot? what tyres are you running?

I would make sure you have OK tyres on and bleed the brakes with good fluid. THat should do the trick

[adam-__-]

I'm with everyone else on this one. Get some better pads, rotors and tyres before upgrading to larger brakes. If this doesn't work then upgrade.

[SHANE666]

hey duncan my pedal starts vibrating under foot after ive given the car a bit of go.

what does this indicate?

Rhys im interested in seein how you go.

i met a guy not long ago who had gtt brakes on his 34 gt25 but he bought it like that so cudnt ask him about it.

cheers.

Edited February 3, 2008 by SHANE666

[Roy]

Its an NA R33. So i personally wouldn twaste any money on them...R33 GT25t brakes are relatively cheap and would be worlds better and not overly expensive since the range of pads/rotors that are available for these calipers

[tacker]

Its an NA R33. So i personally wouldn twaste any money on them...R33 GT25t brakes are relatively cheap and would be worlds better and not overly expensive since the range of pads/rotors that are available for these calipers

LOL the son of rajab of brakes has spoken and its good advise

[Duncan]

shane666, a shuddering under braking almost always means warped discs - a quick skim/machining of the discs should sort it out.

Roy, as you know I'm always a fan of bigger brakes, but I bet even the na brakes are OK. How many piston, how big is the pad and how big is the rotor. Can't be worse than the 350z which means it is always fine for at least 1 big stop.

I'm not saying the stock brakes are good for a thrashing or track day, but for a single stop at traffic lights they should be fine

[NA_Goodness]

Yeh, they do get a bit of a thrashing, which is another reason why I want 2 upgrade. The NA brakes are tiny, and really shit. The pads are fine, but the rotors need machining, so instead of paying all this money, I just want an upgrade. The car will probs end up at the track later on in its life, so better start now. Plus I value my safety, and I really hate the 4-stud pattern on the car. I'm probs going to upgrade the brakes with R33 GTS-t brakes, calipers and hubs, as well as better fluid among other things. Good tyres are good, but they are expencive to replace after some "fun", not that I'm into that sort of thing at all...

Thanks for all the advice tho guys, I appreciate it.

[Roy]

Roy, as you know I'm always a fan of bigger brakes, but I bet even the na brakes are OK. How many piston, how big is the pad and how big is the rotor. Can't be worse than the 350z which means it is always fine for at least 1 big stop.

Fair point...but my consideration was there are people that drive their cards damn hard on the street. That and on the street you dont get the weide open throttle stretches to cool brakes...its stop start etc. But i do agree that generally if its a street car dont get carried away with brakes. But talking to ppl im horrified by how many boil the brakes on the street. So my new rule is im in the minority when it comes to being an old man tryign to get 450kms from every tank

Ok, that said, R33 NA brakes are basically S13 brakes. So you have twin piston floating floating calipers on the front on what i think is a 280mm rotor with single piston caliper on the rear with a solid disc....i killed my personal laptop with all the brake crap i have collated over the years so cant readily refer to it to confirm the above.

But for a 1350odd kg car that has good suspension and enough grunt to get up some real speed on the street....i dont think its a huge leap to say they are under braked....especially when there is a cheap alternative in GTS25T brakes which also opens up the world of much cooler wheels