Ricos Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Hey guys, As most of you are aware this new option that Just-Jap provides is a fantastic solution to dodge the hacking of the drivers side engine bay that you have to do for other intercooler installs. Which is very illegal if you have a R33 with Airbags. However the question that i raise now, even though there is NO cutting of a whole in the engine bay for these new kits, is it legal to have a FMIC mounted on a R33 with airbags? or is it still illegal to even have a FMIC mounted cause it may interfere with airbags still? Im really keen on these kits but still unsure on how legal these are. P.S i would run the stock airbox so the FMIC would act as my 1 intake mod Thanks Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLOOOK Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 As u said in Vic you are allowed an intake mod, so the FMIC would be legal. Do u know where the airbag sensors are located ? If u dont need to relocate the sensors then it should be ok. Speak to the regulatory authority in your state. Vicroads? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 EPA rule states ONE intake mod So Pod OR FMIC There is a massive full detail EPA thread in the Vic section http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Ep...Th-t156269.html Cheers. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricos Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 EPA rule states ONE intake modSo Pod OR FMIC There is a massive full detail EPA thread in the Vic section http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Ep...Th-t156269.html Cheers. I fully understand these intake EPA laws and i intend to follow them, however im asking whether having a FMIC on an R33 with airbags is legal or illegal (when using Just-Japs new intercooler kits that you dont need to cut holes for) these puppies http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Co...er-t209304.html or is it still illegal cause it play an impact on airbags when hit from the front ? cheers Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Thats also covered in there As long as you dont Cut/Chop/Butcher any panels, guards, chassic etc then no problem, which is what you said in the second line of your post Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricos Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 Thats also covered in there As long as you dont Cut/Chop/Butcher any panels, guards, chassic etc then no problem, which is what you said in the second line of your post thanks mate Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrocket Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Hmm could i consider my R34 SMIC on my r33 to be a "standard" item and run a pod. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 I think you'd be hard pressed to be caught for that Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricos Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 Hmm could i consider my R34 SMIC on my r33 to be a "standard" item and run a pod. Probably LOL but would u want to run a pod? I think id prefer the stock air box. Quiter and cooler air Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Hmm could i consider my R34 SMIC on my r33 to be a "standard" item and run a pod. Yes Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricos Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 Hrmm... Now i have to make the decision whether to get one of these stealth Just-Jap kits or run a R34 SMIC. Mods: Exhaust (3") BC (12psi) what would u do ? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrocket Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Probably LOL but would u want to run a pod?I think id prefer the stock air box. Quiter and cooler air Yeah i have a K&N panel filter at the moment. If i was to go to POD then i would most likely build a new box from fibreglass or something incorperating the factory snorkel etc. Not really thinking too seriously bout that at moment tho. With the R34 SMIC ya can barely tell the difference from the outside (of course duh) but even when you look under the car, the drip tray plastics hide it all anyways and the intake ducting makes it hard to see too. All good for me tho. lol Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~R33AzzA~ Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Hrmm...Now i have to make the decision whether to get one of these stealth Just-Jap kits or run a R34 SMIC. Mods: Exhaust (3") BC (12psi) what would u do ? Personely I would go with the FMIC. It is legal on your car and has a large serface area for cooling, with pretty good flow and little persure drop. I have a FMIC in the stealth style (made it myself) and I painted it black for the extra stealth look. But thats just me, SMIC is still a very good option. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricos Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 Yeah i have a K&N panel filter at the moment. If i was to go to POD then i would most likely build a new box from fibreglass or something incorperating the factory snorkel etc. Not really thinking too seriously bout that at moment tho. With the R34 SMIC ya can barely tell the difference from the outside (of course duh) but even when you look under the car, the drip tray plastics hide it all anyways and the intake ducting makes it hard to see too. All good for me tho. lol Did you notice a difference when fitting the 34 cooler? or much of a muchness from the stock. They go for about $150? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricos Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 Personely I would go with the FMIC. It is legal on your car and has a large serface area for cooling, with pretty good flow and little persure drop.I have a FMIC in the stealth style (made it myself) and I painted it black for the extra stealth look. But thats just me, SMIC is still a very good option. Who did your pipework ? How big is ur core ? 600 x 300? I have a 600 x 300 x 70 core already but i would need the pipework made up to run back underneath the core, but doing this i am also affraid if will hang to low below my front bar. Hence why im asking what size ur core is. Does ur underneath pipe hang lower than you front bar? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~R33AzzA~ Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Who did your pipework ? How big is ur core ? 600 x 300? I have a 600 x 300 x 70 core already but i would need the pipework made up to run back underneath the core, but doing this i am also affraid if will hang to low below my front bar. Hence why im asking what size ur core is. Does ur underneath pipe hang lower than you front bar? My core is a HKS 600 x 300 x 70 and I used BLITZ piping and welded the angled return onto the side of the cooler myself at work, on their time. It all went together pretty easy. I have an M-SPORTS front bar and it covers the piping fine. The M-SPORTS bar is only a little lower than a stock bar. The stock one should cover the piping as long as you mount your cooler to the underside of the bumper re-enforcement. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 My core is a HKS 600 x 300 x 70 and I used BLITZ piping and welded the angled return onto the side of the cooler myself at work, on their time. It all went together pretty easy. I have an M-SPORTS front bar and it covers the piping fine. The M-SPORTS bar is only a little lower than a stock bar. The stock one should cover the piping as long as you mount your cooler to the underside of the bumper re-enforcement. Just a quick question. Why didn't you hide the return pipe behind the fmic, instead of coming back under it. I think it would look a lot neater and make fark all difference to the flow of the cooler. EAS Performance did all my piping and fabrication work on my car. Contact details below. Old Setup: New Setup: Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricos Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 My core is a HKS 600 x 300 x 70 and I used BLITZ piping and welded the angled return onto the side of the cooler myself at work, on their time. It all went together pretty easy. I have an M-SPORTS front bar and it covers the piping fine. The M-SPORTS bar is only a little lower than a stock bar. The stock one should cover the piping as long as you mount your cooler to the underside of the bumper re-enforcement. I have a m sports front bar too....my core is a little different to yours but. outlet is lvl with the bottom of the core. so if i made an underneath pipe like urs the 180 bend would be alot sharper. I called up a few mobs and they wanted something like 200-300 bucks for the pipe... so i figured it wouldnt be worth it. Extra couple hunder and i can get a new kit :S Plus 200-300 bucks was step if it were to hang down and get caught on every speed bump!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricos Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 Just a quick question.Why didn't you hide the return pipe behind the fmic, instead of coming back under it. I think it would look a lot neater and make fark all difference to the flow of the cooler. EAS Performance did all my piping and fabrication work on my car. Contact details below. Old Setup: New Setup: How much u recon EAS would charge to make a pipeup like ~R33AzzA~'s. All workshops i called up said about 200-300 which i found pritty step, but then they told me it was alot of work involved :S unless they just didnt wanna do it hahaha It just seems there isnt enough room to run it behind / under like ur suggest and seems it would hang down alot. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~R33AzzA~ Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 I have a m sports front bar too....my core is a little different to yours but. outlet is lvl with the bottom of the core.so if i made an underneath pipe like urs the 180 bend would be alot sharper. I called up a few mobs and they wanted something like 200-300 bucks for the pipe... so i figured it wouldnt be worth it. Extra couple hunder and i can get a new kit :S Plus 200-300 bucks was step if it were to hang down and get caught on every speed bump!! You can make your own piping, buy some exhuast bends (mandrel) and some tube, tack it together and get someone to finish welding it. It might be mild steel but its easy to do, and not to expensive. If you need tube I can supply some to you as I have a heap of 2.5 inch tube at work. Mandrel bends are avalible at truck bits for around $10 bucks a bend (don't quote me on price). Thoughts on mild steel piping? Painted on the outside of course. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/218034-cooling-pro-stealth-fmic-legal/#findComment-3847746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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