Apex'i Power FC v's Greddy E-mannage

[adznight]

OK, with the Greddy E-manage now on the market looks like the Power FC has a bit of competition but I want to know which is the better of the two disregarding price range. What are the Pro's and Con's of each unit? From what I can gather tuners like the E-mannage because of it's easy tunning but what else is there? There has to be more to it.

[Maxx]

Power Fc is a stand alone computer, e-manage is only a piggy back.

power FC disable the speed limit but e-manage don't.

e-manage only control the fuel inject but not the igition time(opition, need to pay for extra), power FC done both.

therefore, power FC has wider range of tuning ability but u pay for more.

personal i will go for e-manage coz it a bit more than 1/2 of power Fc price but does things close to power FC.

also, when i change my car, i can take the e-manage with me.

[netrati]

The e-manage is similar to the Apexi S-AFC and S-AFCII. Personally I think the S-AFCII is better than the e-manage, maybe just because I own one. It has a higher resolution than the e-manage.

[Maxx]

copy from ed -

emanage = Apexi S-AFC???

The closest competition to the E-manage is the Apexi Super-AFC. The Super-AFC is a very nice and powerful unit, and they both have their advantages and disadvantages. The E-manage is far more capable, but does require a laptop (or the E-01 boost controller) to program. The Super-AFC is simpler, but is self-contained – you program it right on the unit's display. The Super-AFC doesn't handle larger injectors as easily as the E-manage, doesn't control additional injectors, doesn't do ignition timing, and doesn't have datalogging (though it does do some MAP tracing on the screen, but they can't be saved and are tricky to interpret). It's still a great computer, though. The E-manage is really the next step up.

[IanH]

Adzmax - If you go for the PowerFC then here are a few things to think about

1) The GTT uses a different version of the Hand Controller (N001) than any other Skyline (X001) which means that most tuners can only map it with the H/C and NOT a laptop (for better mapping the laptop is essential as if opens more options and displays more stuff)

2) The only company who can produce a GTT adaptor and software is FC-Datalogic but they need a GTT PowerFC to work with 1st as they haven't done one before.

I've just found all this out after buying my stuff, which I now can't use properly.

Cheers..............................................................IAnH

[adznight]

Wow, thanks mate! I'm sorry to hear that though. Hope you get it going ok.

[4 Doorz]

Originally posted by IanH

1) The GTT uses a different version of the Hand Controller (N001) than any other Skyline (X001) which means that most tuners can only map it with the H/C and NOT a laptop (for better mapping the laptop is essential as if opens more options and displays more stuff)

[/b]

Quite a few people have said that but NO ONE has said what other options there were, seems like no one wants to say!? What's the deal, do you know IanH?

[DoughBoy]

It's somewhat true that no matter how great your setup is, it is only going to be as good as the person tuning it. Not many people are familiar with the E-manage, which is why I changed to a PowerFC.

[adznight]

From what I've heard the E-mannage is great to tune but what would I know, lol.

[KamikazeR33]

franks from sydney has a pfc tuned on his r34 gtt

[adznight]

Look like I need a injector and ignition harness too for the Greddy. Anything else?

[Raza]

well ive got a e-manage on the way...with some reading i found the e-manage the way to go...

1...u can take it with u when u sell the car..

2...it can work with auto trans..

3...it does wot the pfc can do..

4...cheaper...

5..i got a loptop for it..

6..i got the e-01 ebc...

7..and the S-afc has nothing on the e-manage..that y im getting rid of the S-afc..

yes ur engine management system is only as good as the tuner...

and in japan they have cars with huge power and running the e-manage

[DoughBoy]

Originally posted by Raza

...in japan...

$3500 in container fees to ship your car to and from Japan.

~$AU600 to tune it (labor fees are alot more there than here).

Nice tune. Sure it wouldn't be cheaper to get a PowerFC in the long run?

[Raza]

doughboy can u email me that thingy,, plz

and there are people here who can tune the e-manage

[DoughBoy]

For me to email you, first you have to agree with me!!!!

[Raza]

ok.lol

[aybee]

power fc is full management.

e-manage only runs fuel.

no comparison.

i was interested too cause of the price but asked around and read sites and found that it only runs fuel. need to have an ITC or something to run ignition to compare it to a power fc.

[Raza]

yer u need the other harnesses to do the rest

[Raza]

injector harness,,(us this harness to increase your injectors duty cycle, injector logging and to control sub-injectors)

ignition harness....(us this harness to control your ignition system timing)

[JimX]

How much for the E manage plus injector harness? I assume you want the latter if you put bigger injectors in. How does the S-AFC not cope with bigger injectors?