On Market For An Ecu

[Sloane]

Hey guys

On the market for a ECU and I dont have much experience with ECU's

so thought I'd post up on SAU for assistance

budget is around 1500

I lost a bid on a Power Fc with hand controller

cause it went over my max bid of 1100 (used condition)

I wanted a Motec as I've been told they are the best and also universal but they are very expensive.

Got my eye on the Greddy E-manage Ultimate at the moment which ive seen around the $800 mark.

How do they compare to the rest of the ECU market and why are they more reasonably priced.

Have they got less features??

I remember reading somewhere on this forum where some ranked ecu's as such

Motec

Haltech

Apexi Power Fc

and whatever others in between and below

hope someone can shed some light on the topic

Thanks

[Sloane]

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/ma...56-t161460.html

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Gr...manage+Ultimate

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Gr...manage+Ultimate

some good responses about the EMU

anyone want to contest against it?

[Bond]

Go get your standard ecu remapped. I cant see any downside to it except if you needed some higher end functions like launch control, anti lag and flat shift.

I have an r33 s2 with a dr drift remap and it runs, idles, cold starts perfectly!

[Sloane]

Go get your standard ecu remapped. I cant see any downside to it except if you needed some higher end functions like launch control, anti lag and flat shift.

I have an r33 s2 with a dr drift remap and it runs, idles, cold starts perfectly!

are you talking about there being no downside to EMU? or remapping stock ecu?

[Bond]

Stock

[R31Nismoid]

Who is your tuner?

And what did they recommend in your budget?

Those are the first two things you should work out, then research their recommendation to ensure it meets your needs

[bryno]

emu is good for mild mods, but once you start using bigger injectors and pushing more air through there are problems.

Apparently doesn't like injectors that are more than 50% bigger than standard, and I don't think it supports larger AFMs (was told it converts it back to the stock AFM resolution)

Really depends on what you're intending on doing to the car and how it'll be driven.. Motec and Haltec units may have features you'd never use and would probably be a waste of money. New ViPEC ecu may be an option, might be out of your price range though.

[Sloane]

http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....howtopic=295074

that is my car with the mods list

Gavin Wood is my chosen Tuner.

He recommended a Apexi Power FC for $1450

which he can source brand new.

and $720 for install + tune

heard about Vipec but didnt find a price or tuner close to me that could tune it

My dyno sheet from Gavin's last Dyno Night

Edited September 24, 2008 by Greddy Skyline

[STATUS]

emu is good for mild mods, but once you start using bigger injectors and pushing more air through there are problems.

Apparently doesn't like injectors that are more than 50% bigger than standard, and I don't think it supports larger AFMs (was told it converts it back to the stock AFM resolution)

Really depends on what you're intending on doing to the car and how it'll be driven.. Motec and Haltec units may have features you'd never use and would probably be a waste of money. New ViPEC ecu may be an option, might be out of your price range though.

All the above is false so disregard it....

VipEC is a rebadged link. $both very good

PFC can be got new for $1500

EMU can be got for under $1000 in fact i have one for sale that i did a back to back comparison with the VIPEC fully tuned to suit S1 and S2 R33 (plug and play $900)

HALTECH more than $1500

PLUG in MOTEC N/A only wire in. (plug ins for subaru and mitsy only)

[Sloane]

All the above is false so disregard it....

VipEC is a rebadged link. $both very good

PFC can be got new for $1500

EMU can be got for under $1000 in fact i have one for sale that i did a back to back comparison with the VIPEC fully tuned to suit S1 and S2 R33 (plug and play $900)

HALTECH more than $1500

PLUG in MOTEC N/A only wire in. (plug ins for subaru and mitsy only)

Hey Trent

Ive read some of your threads and you seem to be knowledgeable with the ecu's

So from what you can see on the dyno reading i posted and the mod list on my car.

what do you propose I invest in?

I think i will be going down the modifying direction with my GTS-T to make it a fun street car.

but thats about it.

Edited September 24, 2008 by Greddy Skyline

[Bond]

$750 for instal and tune sounds a bit much.

[R31Nismoid]

Considering installs of PFC are pretty easy... $720 is a fairly expensive tune from a name i've never even seen on these forums..

[Sloane]

Well on the Gold Coast Gavin Wood is a very reputable tuner and has be known for working GTRs

one particular car is the TOP RPM 33GTR

anyway he said it may take few hours o tune so he maybe said 700 to be safe.

[Bond]

Spend

$1000 for r33 ecu with daughter board

$200 for a tune

Save the remaining $1000 you would have spent and buy some injectors and z32 AFM

Instal and drive!!!

[STATUS]

Spend

$1000 for r33 ecu with daughter board

$200 for a tune

Save the remaining $1000 you would have spent and buy some injectors and z32 AFM

Instal and drive!!!

i do heaps of remaps and im sorry to say but it is just to dear for what you get. PFC or Vipec/LINK all day over a R33 remap.

[markr34gtr]

vipec plugin ecu 1650.00 23 psi map sensor...far better choice now than a power fc fpr rb25s....

easy to tune and a full out ecu controls , upgradedable etc... lcd dash avail soon for about 900.00

600 to tune.....

rb25 power fc s are great if you can get them 1000.00 but 1500 is too much...

we charge 4 to 600 for a power fc fitted and tuned and have done 100s of them...

hope this helps.

mark godzilla motorsport...

[Pattygtst]

i got my power fc with controller new for 895 3 months ago when the aus dollar was good to the us.

Seek and you shall find, if you want something hard enough you can get it

[siddr20]

Spend

$1000 for r33 ecu with daughter board

$200 for a tune

Save the remaining $1000 you would have spent and buy some injectors and z32 AFM

Instal and drive!!!

Or spent 400 dollars for a remap with toshi

Down side - if you upgrading something then you gotta spend another 400 for a new chip/tune.

If you want more details about toshi remap, check out my thread about it.. Search my topics!!

[Bond]

Or spent 400 dollars for a remap with toshi

Yeah thats why i got the daughter board put in as i still have injectors and z32 to go and probably a front mount later on.

Drives, idles and performs great now and ecconomy as a lot better than b4.

Can some1 let me know what the advantage of a power fc over a remap (from a tuners point of view) besides the hand controller (honest question)

Edited September 25, 2008 by Bond

[R31Nismoid]

Well from another point of view (the average punter) the main thing would be choice of tuners, workshops and so on above all else... the fact retuning doesnt cost a bomb either also adds to things if you say change I/C, mild turbo, cams and so on where a remap suddenly becomes unviable in my book once you've had to retune it more than once.

The remaps that are 'sent in the mail' i have no faith in, as every car is different.