Are 19's To Big!

[Daz305]

hey guys, i need a bit help here... ive got a r34 gtt and am getn new rims for it, i was thinkn of getn either 18 or 19's.... are 19's to big? performance wise wats better...? like good and bad about both of em.... n if im gona mess around a bit driftn stuff like that wat would i be better off with wheels and tyre size...? i think the guy at the shop reconed 19 x 8.5 with 225 35 front and 19 x 9.5 with 245 35 rear woudl b alright but i dunno if i trust him.... thanx heaps

[Vik]

I got starcorp Impul 19's on my 34.

235/35 9.5 front and back.

Work very well, rears a lil cambered, cars already lowered, no tire rub whatsoever, wheel turn is fine aswell.

Ride.. well.. way more grip then stockies thats for sure.

MRXTCZ

[nisskid]

19's look like shit (imo)

ride like shit

perform like shit

cost a lot

cost a lot in tyres

are illegal

tbh i cannot think of any positive with them.

[75coupe]

I agree, I can't see any pros for getting 19s except braggin rights if your in school... from all I've heard 17s for performance & cost

[cankas]

Ive got 19s on mine but its not lowered.

265/30 rear and 235/35 front

Had no dramas fitting them, to big for drift but you can always put the stockies back on at the track

No ride issues at all, driven adel to bris return and syd return.

As for costing alot, hunt around some places will rip you off big time. I run Kumho KU31 for the 265/30 and u can get them for $250 a tyre from tempe, some places want $450!!!!

As for them being illegal, wtf, there fine in sa, your allowed to go 2in larger than standard without an engineers certificate

[ZENNON]

tbh i cannot think of any positive with them.

street cred man! its all about street cred!

[Granthem]

I run 19s.

19x8 with +35 offset.

cant full lock very well I rub on my plastic guard inserts and when it was slammed the front guard sliced my tire.

However I wouldnt go any smaller. I love the look of 19s. They dont look 'too big' but they def dont look small. As for ride, I didnt notice much difference in going from 18s to 19s in my commie. And with the skyline, if ride was a problem it wouldnt be on coilovers.

I say do it

I like your rims too cankas!

[Daz305]

i think ill go 18's.... although 19's like grant n cankas do look mad i recon. i got 17s atm there just 5 spokes that came with it, the cars black but n i want black wheels with a silver lip... cheers 4 the advice guys

[nisskid]

Ive got 19s on mine but its not lowered.

265/30 rear and 235/35 front

Had no dramas fitting them, to big for drift but you can always put the stockies back on at the track

No ride issues at all, driven adel to bris return and syd return.

As for costing alot, hunt around some places will rip you off big time. I run Kumho KU31 for the 265/30 and u can get them for $250 a tyre from tempe, some places want $450!!!!

As for them being illegal, wtf, there fine in sa, your allowed to go 2in larger than standard without an engineers certificate

yeh sorry, on R34's and R33 GTR's 19's are legal, unfortunately.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

bigger than 18 = fail

[Bakes]

each to their own. 19s for me!

[Granthem]

each to their own. 19s for me!

Winnar!

Theres always the too big argument. To be honest I think 19s is the perfect size. Others think they are too big and heavy and effect performance etc. R35 GTR manages sub 7.30s at the ring on 20s so big rims cant be too bad!

[nisskid]

Winnar!

Theres always the too big argument. To be honest I think 19s is the perfect size. Others think they are too big and heavy and effect performance etc. R35 GTR manages sub 7.30s at the ring on 20s so big rims cant be too bad!

please, let's keep at least some logic in this argument. the R35 GTR is designed to take larger wheels, the guards are larger and the tyre profiles are still reasonable, not to mention the wheels are lightweight forged wheels, not cheap tempe tyre crap which is what most people are putting on their skylines.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

not to mention the wheels are lightweight forged wheels, not cheap tempe tyre crap which is what most people are putting on their skylines.

exactly... dont know how many times i have seen 19" china shit... millions

but as for REAL rims in 19.... very very rare

[nisskid]

but as for REAL rims in 19.... very very rare

theres a few for the euro market, but a lot of them use different stud patterns.

[MookRG]

most volk rims come in 19inch variety, they look nice

otherwise stick to 18's

[Skyalwaysblue]

IMO 19 is good for show, 18 is for performance.

I'd get 18 personally.

just my 2c.

[Granthem]

please, let's keep at least some logic in this argument. the R35 GTR is designed to take larger wheels, the guards are larger and the tyre profiles are still reasonable, not to mention the wheels are lightweight forged wheels, not cheap tempe tyre crap which is what most people are putting on their skylines.

I know all of that. But you threw a blanket over all big rims. Just a simple case that big isnt always bad like you made out.

Agreed some people just go as big as they can for as cheap as they can. And im not saying thats good.

But at the end of the day most of these skylines spend 99% of their time on the road, so if they are happy with the look of the rim and it rolls, thats what matters. Affecting handling around town, well you wont really notice when taking corners at 15.

Track skylines i understand. But honestly I would rather roll on something that looks appealing on the street, then something that helps performance

I know thats not everyone though

[nisskid]

I know all of that. But you threw a blanket over all big rims. Just a simple case that big isnt always bad like you made out.

Agreed some people just go as big as they can for as cheap as they can. And im not saying thats good.

But at the end of the day most of these skylines spend 99% of their time on the road, so if they are happy with the look of the rim and it rolls, thats what matters. Affecting handling around town, well you wont really notice when taking corners at 15.

Track skylines i understand. But honestly I would rather roll on something that looks appealing on the street, then something that helps performance

I know thats not everyone though

firstly, i didnt throw a blanket over all big rims, this is SAU, the guy owns a R34 GT-t, im talking about big rims on these skylines.

secondly, its not just about handling, its about ride comfort and damage, the harsher the ride the less comfortable it is as well as transferring more shock into the chassis and components. it's one thing to have to put up with a harsher ride on the road because of stiffer suspension in the goal of a better handling car, but to put up with a harsh ride while actually hindering performance just for wank factor, well that just doesnt make sense to me.

what ive noticed is that in general the people that admire blingy 19's on skylines are people who don't have the first clue about skylines or performance cars and are just the product of the MTV generation where shiny = good, people that appreciate a skyline and other cars properly generally admire nicely styled cars on good, more appropriately sized wheels that suit the car.

i just find it hard to comprehend why someone would buy a performance car only to ruin its performance with mods that make it look more like a sex spec poser car than an actual sports car. why not just buy a slow car if ur not interested in performance?

each to their own i guess, but this thread is about opinions and this is mine.

[scathing]

19's look like shit (imo)

are illegal

Says who?

I just checked the VicRoads web site (since the OP is based in Melbourne) and their Vehicle Standards Information Modification Guide, and I can't see anything banning them.

i was thinkn of getn either 18 or 19's.... are 19's to big? performance wise wats better...?

Performance-wise, I'd say that the best diameter wheel is 1" bigger than the smallest that will fit over your stock brakes. If you've gone to a bigger brake kit then its the smallest rim that will fit over them. Assuming you're either comparing two cheap wheels or two expensive wheels, the smaller diameter one tends to weigh less (lower unsprung weight is good for ride and handling), have the mass more centred (lower rotational inertia means better acceleration) and cost less.

If you buy decent tyres they'll have reinforced sidewalls, so the flex isn't going to make the car nautical. For street use, the extra compliance from sidewall flex will make the car less skittish and easier to drive fast through a bumpy corner (i.e. most of Australia).

im gona mess around a bit driftn stuff like that

If you're going to go drifting (off street at a proper event, of course) then you'd be better off just popping tyres on your existing OEM wheels, especially if you're just starting off. 17" tyres are cheaper and quite easy to find used, which is a major consideration when you're smoking them up.

Looks-wise, its in the eye of the beholder. Personally I reckon the rims on cankas' car are a tad too big (I believe that there's a proportion between rim, sidewall and tyre arch and his have a bit too much rim) especially in the rear. For some reason, I think Granthem's are spot on. It could be the fact that Granthem's car is lowered and sits more aggressively.

but as for REAL rims in 19.... very very rare

Have a poke around the V35/Z33 forums. Since the OEM wheels are 18", there are plenty of quality "+1" sized wheels floating around on those cars.

Edited October 14, 2008 by scathing