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LawzzZz

By LawzzZz,
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When you get into a crash, the carbon can shatter and do more damage if u hit someone.
I think there are a couple carbon fibre bonnets that are ADR'd which might involve them being laminated so when an object hits them they don't fragment into little ninja stars
cf gets nasty. when have a head-on it splinters into little javelins travelling a squillion k's an hour in every direction. bad.

Not sure where you guys are getting your information from, but carbon fibre is not a mythical fabric weave that all of sudden destroys anything in its path when it breaks. The actual carbon fibre itself does not do any damage, its more often the clear coat on top that has stuck to the carbon which will cause minor splintoring. Depending on the construction type (I'm assuming wet lay-up which most carbon items like hoods and bootlids are made from) will have the same properties as fibreglass when it's crushed or hit with force. You also need to consider that almost all hoods on today's market are not really made entirely of carbon fibre. They are a fibreglass skeleton with only a single layer of carbon on the top. You should also remember that all of the top motorsport categories like F1 and high end sports cars use carbon fibre (or a carbon/kevlar mix) to construct their chassis.

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Not sure where you guys are getting your information from, but carbon fibre is not a mythical fabric weave that all of sudden destroys anything in its path when it breaks. The actual carbon fibre itself does not do any damage, its more often the clear coat on top that has stuck to the carbon which will cause minor splintoring. Depending on the construction type (I'm assuming wet lay-up which most carbon items like hoods and bootlids are made from) will have the same properties as fibreglass when it's crushed or hit with force. You also need to consider that almost all hoods on today's market are not really made entirely of carbon fibre. They are a fibreglass skeleton with only a single layer of carbon on the top. You should also remember that all of the top motorsport categories like F1 and high end sports cars use carbon fibre (or a carbon/kevlar mix) to construct their chassis.

and this means....... it still shatters and stabs you like a gazillion javlins lol..... and that they are still defectable???? also don't trust that something is ADR approved, trust me when i say there are heaps of fake ADR shit going around..... especially in bike and race car helmets..... also i have never come across an adr aproved carbon bonnet either..... has anyone actually seen one that is legit????

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and this means....... it still shatters and stabs you like a gazillion javlins lol..... and that they are still defectable???? also don't trust that something is ADR approved, trust me when i say there are heaps of fake ADR shit going around..... especially in bike and race car helmets..... also i have never come across an adr aproved carbon bonnet either..... has anyone actually seen one that is legit????

No it doesn't shatter and turn into little tiny javelins. Having broken carbon items myself I can tell you that this really is a myth.

Also helmets come under the Australian Standard (AS/NZS1698) not ADR.

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and this means....... it still shatters and stabs you like a gazillion javlins lol..... and that they are still defectable???? also don't trust that something is ADR approved, trust me when i say there are heaps of fake ADR shit going around..... especially in bike and race car helmets..... also i have never come across an adr aproved carbon bonnet either..... has anyone actually seen one that is legit????

this shattering flying shards thing is not really accurate. the main problem with most carbon bonnets not meeting ADRs is to do with pedestrian safety. normal bonnets are designed to absorb the impact of a pedestrian you hit. carbon or fibreglass bonnets wont behave in the same way under those conditions. yes another small danger is it can brake at the mounts and end up like a flying disk, or it can break into sharp pieces but the big one is the pedestrian safety.

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and this means....... it still shatters and stabs you like a gazillion javlins lol..... and that they are still defectable???? also don't trust that something is ADR approved, trust me when i say there are heaps of fake ADR shit going around..... especially in bike and race car helmets..... also i have never come across an adr aproved carbon bonnet either..... has anyone actually seen one that is legit????

I think Blits bodykits in QLD make ADR approved ones.

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No it doesn't shatter and turn into little tiny javelins. Having broken carbon items myself I can tell you that this really is a myth.

Also helmets come under the Australian Standard (AS/NZS1698) not ADR.

i know the difference between AS and ADR..... but there the same to forge lol

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does anyone know where to get a plain carbon bonnet???? one with minimal vents in it??? for an r33 all i seem to find are stupid ones with massive air vents in them that look like they'd drown my coils in water if i left the car in the rain for a day.....

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