New Hoon Laws In Planning Again

[SCR34M]

Seriously, i dunno why you guys get so worked up, this generation is fcuked period, there is nothing we can do about it...

Its all crap and we all know it, of course there are other ppl that should be targeted, but, young drivers are the easiest, why, cuz we dont fight back... not because we cant, simply because nobody listens... do what im gonna do, sell ya car and wait for the war...lol

[Char]

hoon laws, i've honestly given up on trying to figure out what that actually implies and what the consequences are because this changes everyday.

cops in undercover skylines?

note to self: buy a blue light and siren, im gonna start pulling ppl over n confiscating peoples cars n sh1t

[Niksmo]

this is wat i think about hoon laws http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=FfoQsZa8F1c.

[R33_NICK]

Was it a light blue N15 by any chance?

yep it was, ripping FWD burnouts

and yeh i seriously dont know what the hell are they thinking. most of those hooning are usually those in commodores and falcons and while its true some does it in their imports as well. those drivers sure gave us a bad name and because of that, we are stereotyped as hoons as soon we get into our cars. its funny how countries like Germany or anywhere in europe have areas with no speed limits and yet theres not many death tolls heard off. even in malaysia where their driving is dangerous, dont really have many death tolls in cars( tho a lot in motorcycles) and believe me their driving is seriously scary and most of them can modify their cars to extreme levels without worrying about being defected; i even saw a honda civic race car being driven everyday on malaysian roads and a heavily modified R34 GTR on a recent trip. sometimes you do wonder why do they have to defect cars for any modifications done to it cuz its not really going to do any good.

Edited January 3, 2009 by R33_NICK

[JonnoHR31]

defect more old ladys driving magnas with steel on steel brakes and bald wanli's in the pouring rain...

[NA_Goodness]

Or the tail lights that are so faded they look like they're headlights. Lets not forget the Ford Meteor that came into work that was running so rich, the entire back end was covered in carbon and the numberplate was only readable 0.5m away.

Then there are the Falcodores with such huge oil leaks, I'm surprised they ever get traction with all that oil leaking onto the road.

[08yannch]

i have herd about the crushing of cars and it isent going to happen unless the person deserves it so no real problem with that

but i have also herd about under cover cops in ns cars trying to egg on other ppl now that is just wrong. is it even legal for them to do that. fine if they just drive the car around normal that is fine but if they start to rev that car at lights and give it some shit that is just crossing the line.

and just putting it our instead of the car crusher what would u do to stop burnout's "hooning"?

[RICCA]

Its funny Now they got undercover's in a Ford Festia great!!

whats next?

[Douse]

i have herd about the crushing of cars and it isent going to happen unless the person deserves it so no real problem with that

but i have also herd about under cover cops in ns cars trying to egg on other ppl now that is just wrong. is it even legal for them to do that. fine if they just drive the car around normal that is fine but if they start to rev that car at lights and give it some shit that is just crossing the line.

Isn't it entrapment?

[fire_angel]

I think hooning is considered on the same level as murder by pious authorities because when there is an accident, it usually involves the death or maiming of other drivers and passengers who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

But why is so much effort going into preventing burnouts when more could be going into hunting murderers, paedophiles, family abusers etc. un-L33t driving skills are the least of societies problems at the moment. Take that woman who stabbed her husband in a drunken rage, 4 yrs jail. Does this system not seem a little unbalanced?!

Lastly, isn't crushing cars not environmentally friendly? do they get recycled? or go into landfill? can they not just chop shop the suckah? *this is a little moot seeing as we use petrol and create emissions etc....but we can carbon offset*

[dan_the_man]

Isn't it entrapment?

Doesn't really matter if it is.

There are no entrapment laws in au. Happy days.

[Marco-R34GTT]

I think hooning is considered on the same level as murder by pious authorities because when there is an accident, it usually involves the death or maiming of other drivers and passengers who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

But why is so much effort going into preventing burnouts when more could be going into hunting murderers, paedophiles, family abusers etc. un-L33t driving skills are the least of societies problems at the moment. Take that woman who stabbed her husband in a drunken rage, 4 yrs jail. Does this system not seem a little unbalanced?!

Great post Coz.. I agree that government are so self-righteous, or as you say, pious, they make themselves the saints that pitch battle against evil car enthusiasts day in - day out... Protecting the meek, the elderly and the decrepit from loud exhausts, tyre squeals and people who nudge the speed limit.

Actually, I'd refer to it as 'political zealotry'. It is (in historical terms), yet another example of a government issuing a zealous unwavering focus upon a group of people that are branded as absolute, irreverent and non-rehabilitatable criminals for the sake of political appeasement, or as I like to call it, 'political prostitution'. In a lest serious sense, the car enthusiast is treated with similar civil distain as the Jews were in Nazi Germany, as much as 90% of us have done little wrong (or those like me, who have unfortunately stuffed up and bothered to make amends), yet we are all passed through the same mill. Treated all the same and branded all in the same manner, looked down upon as a collection of uneducated rabble, savages with carhorns, camshafts, mufflers and subwoofers..

We are targeted because, although we are not dogs... We act likes dogs, we get kicked and we take it, we flinch and we scarper.. We do nothing... The politicians tighten the vice, yet we do nothing... They turn the screws even more, and still we fail to act... We are targeted because we are an easy target, much like the Jews in the Synagogues were easy prey, likewise, we are too in our performance cars...

Maybe politicians need to be reminded that car enthusiasts an non-car enthusiasts are in fact moulded from the same clay, for the most part, we are no better or worse that either politicians or our fellow countrymen & women. It is a disgrace that we are treated like such imbeciles.. I have no idea what the car clubs can actually do... But how can ALL the car enthusiasts in this country NOT BE ABLE to galvanise country-wide political force? Why is there no lobby group that has a set of balls and a few teeth? Is political mobilisation on our part just an outright impossibility??

Shame that our politicians don't target the real enemies of society with such vigour and zeal.. No... We will still all either vote liberal or labor, or donkey vote if we can't be stuffed... I think some of the car clubs in this country ought to come together.. Soon we will be jailed for owning a car with more than 45kw... Soon, it will be illegal to turn on your radio or wash your import in public... Buck stops here people!

Maybe we should ring our friends in the 'West Australian', have them reveal the number and severity of penalties that have been issued to the politicians driving tax payer's cars for the last 10 years, then compare them to our state average... Maybe, I should remind everyone that our one time police minister and professional d***head, John D'Orazio, was driving around our streets with no license?? Hhmmmmm, do I smell a generous hint of hypocrisy???

Edited January 5, 2009 by Marco-R34GTT

[BANGN]

tbh, the hoon laws dont really effect me, sure it annoys me the fact they are targeting people with an interest in cars, mainly imports, I see a time and a place for everything and if your stupid enough to do it in crowded place that so many people can see then its obvious it will create a negative image for the enthusiest community, its just channel f**king 7 & channel 9 who brainwash perth that everyone who has a modified car is a hoon. Obey the road rules and be watchful and it shouldnt matter to you either.

Heres a true story for you all...

When i first got my p plates which was about 5 years ago, I did a detour through kalamunda oval car park and hit some loose gravel, i was accelerating up a slope on gravel and i broke a bit of traction up the hill, i figured meh and just kept accelerating creating a cloud of dust behind me. It was about a 10m loss of traction, I had an exhaust on my car, rims and was lowered, it wasnt overly loud.

3 Hours later the police were on my door telling my mum I was reported for doing handbrake burnouts at the oval by someone walking their dog and i was going to have my licence taken off me, Mum said i wasnt there and i had gone out, so they came up the next day! and i was home, I told the officer that wasnt the case i had a loss of traction up a gravel slope, i had a mate there who was pulled aside and confirmed my story.. So i was told to pull my head in.

3 months ago my mums ex husband broke into the house in kalamunda and took alot of mums things and grafitied on a mirror and threw all my mums clothes in the fish pond. The police took 6 hours to respond to file a report.

Kalamunda police have been trying to find him to charge him for burglary, in which we located him 2 months later and told wanaroo police where he lived and we agreed to rock up at his house and collect mums stuff and wanaroo police were to charge him.. Wanaroo police station confirmed it was a go ahead.

We are at his door with the police and suddenly the police decided to ring head office to make sure its ok to charge him, they came back and said they cant charge him, kalamunda police have to charge him.....

do you think kalamunda police would drive to wannaroo????

then he threatended to kill us the next day and we were warned that he was on his way up to mums house, lucky i was their, he currently has a VRO but that doesnt matter to him. The Police were called and they wouldnt come up until he was actually at the house. If he had a gun that would of been a bit late dont you think.

but the summary of my story is this.... If you do a burnout anywhere in perth, ANY police station can charge for you wreckless driving, wether you did it in northrbrige, made it back to armadale and armadale police could confiscate your car and do watever..

but if you burgle a house in kalamunda and you live in wanaroo, you get away with it.

what f**ked up system is this.

/rant

Edited January 5, 2009 by BANGN

[inthisglass]

i heard on the radio today

that they are proposing to confiscate P platers cars for 3 months if they exceed the speed limit by more than 20km/h

SERIOUSLY what the tits?

[Marco-R34GTT]

Exactly, it is this derelict attitude of law enforcement that we as a community must expose.. What us enthusiast drivers must cope with is little more than a pathetic misallocation of resources and a total misapplication of so-called 'justice'. Ultimately, it is worth mentioning that the so-called 'hoon laws' are a woeful and ineffective piece of policy which has been conjured up in the minds of the powers to be. Whenever laws have been passed for the wrong reasons, when they have been made to win elections and not justice, when the masterminds of policy conceive a non-existent enemy to win over an electorate. Then it is the place of the people who have been wronged to keep the relevant authorities in check, that is the beauty of democracy, not that you can slip a silly piece of white and green paper into boxes a few times every ten years.

[Stealthed]

I was driving down to mandurah in my shagna with neons , Undercover cop drives up next to me and speeds up then slows back down repeat trying to get me to race.

and i saw that thing on GWN while in Busso, she was at powercruise filming talking only to the drunk ones haha and all the "hoon" footage was spinouts on the track.

To the Hoon laws, Tis gay they should Focus there efforts elsewere.

[R33_NICK]

But why is so much effort going into preventing burnouts when more could be going into hunting murderers, paedophiles, family abusers etc. un-L33t driving skills are the least of societies problems at the moment. Take that woman who stabbed her husband in a drunken rage, 4 yrs jail. Does this system not seem a little unbalanced?!

im with you on this one. they seem to charge hoon drivers more than drunkens and stabbing and etc plus the charges for those are ridiculous. in malaysia, if anyone murders someone, you stay in prison forever or hang to death and the judges decides between the two and there isnt any choice but for the charges to hoons, its up to you to do burnouts or drift round a corner or etc as long as it doesnt endanger someone and most of the time they dont really care what you do, unless things get out of hand and while cops here target and defect any modified cars, they dont give a shit there and i think there isnt any defect law around cuz i think they know its not worth it when they could pay attention on something much more serious.

[-Dukes-]

I heard there only crushing cars worth under $2000

Chilax dudes

[TAKUSHI]

and i saw that thing on GWN while in Busso, she was at powercruise filming talking only to the drunk ones haha and all the "hoon" footage was spinouts on the track.

To the Hoon laws, Tis gay they should Focus there efforts elsewere.

yeah its only because theres not enough evidence they've gatherd of these supposed hoons on the streets

they need a track day to convince people this is what our roads are turning into, while they're at it why dont they put up footage

of bathurst, they go heaps faster and have by far more worse off crashes :laughing-smiley-014:

[Kaido_RR]

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Edited January 5, 2009 by [Michael]