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I reckon these reports are far fetched that said I can see a sedan in the same vein as an Aston Martin Rapide/Porsche Panamera and Lamborghini Estoque with GT-R underpinnings and design cues, I reckon that could be a good thing and I reckon it would be badged and marketed as an Infiniti. I think the SUV would have a fair degree of differentiation to a GT-R coupe, that said, Nissan already have a range of very very sleek Infiniti SUV's, so how would this GT-R SUV fit?, not to mention the new Murano..

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its just the americans doing what they do best, making up shit stories and hoping everyone buys into them, that french guy who runs renault etc... would never approve of it nor would he condone it, but i do like the idea of a high performance supercar like sedan, that would be kind cool, and have a door setup similar to the RX-8 only better handling etc...

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There has been both a R32 and R33 GTR's in 4 Door.

I am hoping to get a R33 model myself from japan.

30 R32's and 447 R33's were made. I would buy a R35 model in a hearbeat if it was the same price as a 2 door.

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I honestly don't see what the massive fuss is about on here, every time someone mentions this as a possibility. It's not going to be an GT-R sedan / SUV. It's going to be a sedan based on the same platform (i.e. basic design) as the R35.

The Audi R8 and the Lamborghini Gallardo share the same platform, but they're two very distinctly different cars. Same with the Porsche Cayenne and the Volkswagen Touareg. Or, closer to home, the Ford Falcon and the Ford Territory.

The 350Z and the V35 Skyline aren't particularly similar to look at either, even though they're both FM platform cars. Exterior wise they're as chalk-and-cheese as two cars with the same "design language" can be. In the interior trim the only shared component is the shifter. Under the skin they're pretty close, but that's not necessarily a bad thing for either car and not something a customer experiences.

In terms of the planned PM platform sedan and SUV, they're not going to use the VR38DETT and it's going to be a much longer car to accomodate 4 doors. What they will share are things like suspension and drivetrain design, but with customisations. So it'll be AWD and dual-clutched with active suspension, but you can be sure they'll be less aggressive than the GT-R's.

You can guarantee that Nissan, who spun the GT-R out of the Skyline models to have it as a standalone supercar, isn't going to slap GT-R badges on either of these models and dilute the nameplate. The only people doing that are the wankers who buy the badges and put them on themselves. To be quite blunt, there are enough wankers owning GTS-ts doing that already yet no-one here thinks those cars should never have been made.

Nissan has already stated that the GT-R is not a profitable model. Anyone who remembers how Nissan Australia reacted to the last non-profitable GT-R they sold isn't going to want to see that result repeated by HQ in Japan. Especially since the world economy is still going down the toilet and Ghosn is reknown as a cost-cutter. If Nissan can get a profitable return on investment from the platform, it keeps the car viable.

That's good for all of us.

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Hope, that they're will make a Stagea-like car! I love my Stagea, but years taking my car. Huh. Why don't they think 'bout peoples that hadn't loose their money on that crisis. :-( I don't like sedans & coupes, but I like functional cars with fast one heart!

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For all the haters:

Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn announced overnight that the four-door iteration of the R35 GT-R has both been put on hold indefinitely.

Ghosn went on to explain that Nissan will be shifting its focus to making small and medium sized cars, including a Prius competitor, that will likely fare better in the current automotive environment.

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So instead of getting a sports sedan that Nissan enthusiasts apparently don't want, we're going to get hybrids. Far more popular....

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