Weird Noise Found - Engine F**ked

[Adz2332]

haha yer sorry $7000 fot the engine hpoefully get away with $10000 with the turbs etc mayb a bit less! Hopefully!!

hks gt-ss what are they worth

[Adz2332]

And will they make 350kws +?

[shanef]

i doubt ud find a workshop to do all that for 10k or under.

also hks turbos are massively over priced, the garrett equivalents are around 2.5k

[R31Nismoid]

-7s/-9s are 330rwkw or so.

-5's are 380rwkw or so...

You need to decide on that, and dont get HKS, they are not worth the price these days now exhange rates are up the creek, go with garrett

7k for the motot build & in/out limits you but then some of the parts aren't bad by any means.

Going off your original as per here:

Ok heres the parts list

-New Crank

-CP forged pistons

-Eagle Conrods

-Gates racing timing belt

-Tomei sump baffle kit

-Mines rocker cover baffle set

-Genuine Gasket set

-Tomei metal gasket set

- ACL Race Bearings to mains and Rods

You can cut out the sump/rocker baffles and the rods (stock is more than fine) if you need to save pennies as i think you wont get all of them in a 7k in/out budget.

You do need however, good ARP rod bolts, they are a key to the build.

Other than that the above will fit, and then 2.5k for the -7s/-9s/-5s and you'll probably end up around 11k-12k fitted and then probably tuning costs on top.

So a bit over the 10k but at least its a decent well equipped setup. Its pretty similar to mine actually except i have GT-SS (got them when the exhange rate was good etc).

[Adz2332]

Silly Questions....

-7s/-9s are 330rwkw are 7s or 9s bigger?

also what do the sump/rocker baffles do exactly? Like why should i use them? etc

[shanef]

u dont need the cam cover baffles, the std ones work fine. Just pull them out and clean out the gausing

the tomei sump baffle looks like this:

which is better than nothing, however its better to get extra capacity aswell as better baffling like this: (this one is setup for an external pickup)

[R31Nismoid]

Are you going to be doing lots of track work?

If not, with the right oil mods to the head/block as part of the initial build etc will easily suffice for a street car that might do 1-2 track days/year.

Baffles are not a requirement. Nice to have, yes. But not a neccesity if budget comes into the equation and the second thing to chop out...

with rods being the first place you can save cash if you need.

[Adz2332]

Na no real track work at all...

MAyb a 1/4 mile squirt and a bit of a thrash but thats it

[CRoNic...]

Lewis Engines

http://www.lewisengines.com.au/category9_1.htm

They have engine rebuild packages.

[Adz2332]

Cheers mate ill have a look into it

[writeoff]

To give you an idea of the extra prices of my R32 GTR engine rebuild that was finished early 2008 not included in the list of major parts:

Engine balancing & machining - $1250

Head reconditioning - $700

Crank pulley bolt & washer - $20

Crankshaft bush - $18

Key x2 - $5

Oil filter - $15

Idler pulley - $286

Spark plugs x6 (platinum tipped) - $160

Front diff side seal - $15

Engine mount x2 - $170

Shim machining - $10

Rubber plugs x2 - $15

Washers x20 - $50

Gearbox crossmember bushes - $40

Silicon hose - $5

Clamps x4 - $10

Gear lever boot - $18

Coolant x3 - $35

Front diff oil - $30

Power steering oil - $18

Hicas oil - $9

Injector seals & O rings - $40

Motul oil 300V - $118

Motul oil 4100 - $60

New battery - $95

Total: $3192

My total labour bill was over $6000 but I had a lot of new stuff fitted.

Edited January 27, 2009 by writeoff

[Adz2332]

Wow!! gets scray when u look at it like that

[N1GTR]

Its not cheap to do, you'll find that trying to cut corners will always bite you in the ass.

Doesnt matter how "great/cheap" an option is, there's a reason people dont do it - keep that in mind

[Adz2332]

Lewis Engines any one used them???

They any good??

There in Adelaide and have quoted me for the whole thing and tuning and they are pretty good!

But do they do good work??

[DAN00H]

Lewis Engines any one used them???

They any good??

There in Adelaide and have quoted me for the whole thing and tuning and they are pretty good!

But do they do good work??

by all accounts they stand by the workmanship. isn't there a few drifters using their engines?

have ot say, they look pretty well setup. I don't think you need a mega dollar build for your goals, just go the 6.5k rebuild, garrett turbos and away you go.

there ar a lot of stock engines making over 300rwkw, so the lewis engine will be good for your goal

save yourself some money (you don't need a lot of stuff that has been listed + you ahve a lot of good gear already).

[Adz2332]

How does this set up sound...? Its slightly cheaper

Deck square to tunnels

Bore and hone

Balance

Acid bath block

Reco head ,complete

Assemble engine from sump to covers

Water pump

Oil restrictor

N1 pump as per customer decision

R33 crank

Forged pistons and rings

H beam rods

Gates belt

Nissan gasket set

Mlsr steel head gasket

Acl race bearings

Remove engine , remove accessories refit engine and fit accessories run in and tune

combine that with a set of Garrett -9s?

[mid life crisis]

ive used lewis quite a few times in the past getting speedway engine's machined up have never had a problem with them with any of the work they have done for me in the past

cheers dean

[R31Nismoid]

^ pretty good build above.

However if your just using -9's the added expense of rods really is hard to justify in my book, they will do over 400rwkw as proven many a time over (with good rod bolts etc)

For sure stick N1 oil/water pumps on there

Still no mention of decent rod bolts, only thing you'd make sure of really

[Swiper the Fox]

^ pretty good build above.

However if your just using -9's the added expense of rods really is hard to justify in my book, they will do over 400rwkw as proven many a time over (with good rod bolts etc)

For sure stick N1 oil/water pumps on there

Still no mention of decent rod bolts, only thing you'd make sure of really

yep...the list above is good but forget the rods...totally agree with Ash.

When will people finally get through their heads the stock GTR rods are bloody tough and only in the most extreme engines need to be upgraded (and by upgraded i dont mean to cheap chinese sh1t thats probably on par if not worse than re-sized stockers with a bolt upgrade anyway)

[writeoff]

Still no mention of decent rod bolts, only thing you'd make sure of really

I didn't list them (as I count them as an essential part and was just listing extras) but I used Tomei conrod bolts - $205

Also remember that you will need a dyno tune after so remember to include that in your total cost estimate.