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i still havent got an answer about how you can keep the oil pumps alive with those revs on a rb30.......

who says it rpm that kills oil pumps? I've been over 10,000rpm with my RB30 lots of times with a conventional style oil system and wet sump

Rob

who says it rpm that kills oil pumps? I've been over 10,000rpm with my RB30 lots of times with a conventional style oil system and wet sump

Rob

same...mine sees 9500rpm almost everytime its started...i reused my JUN pump as it had the faintest wear line down the drive face.

I would also like to know what mods are needed?

i had my 30/25 balanced within an inch of its life with lightweight skirtless pistons etc to get some revs out of it but would still be hesitant to rev to 9K just curious.

The R.I.P.S rb30 bottom end has billet main caps and over 75 bolts that hold the bottom end together.

A nitrided,cryoed crank,grub screwed and balanced and there you have it.

i dont know how u can count the sump bolts as bolts that tie the bottom end together, its actually only 51 if u use the rips "4 bolt" mains, 37 if u use the normal 4wd adapter. Total number with the sump bolted down is 79 with the rips "4 bolt" mains and 65 with the normal 4wd adapter.

Ok there are 51 bolts that hold the bottom end together.

Sorry :)

The sump adapter is made to suit the billet main caps. I dont think you can buy just a sump adapter plate but im sure Rob could confirm.

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Ok there are 51 bolts that hold the bottom end together.

Sorry :)

The sump adapter is made to suit the billet main caps. I dont think you can buy just a sump adapter plate but im sure Rob could confirm.

Its not actually. The sump adapter is made to adapt the 4wd sump onto an RB30. RIPS just incorporate the sump adapter into their "4 bolt mains" setup.

I make the sump adapters, rips make the sump adapters, pro engines make the sump adapters + more

Its not actually. The sump adapter is made to adapt the 4wd sump onto an RB30. RIPS just incorporate the sump adapter into their "4 bolt mains" setup.

I make the sump adapters, rips make the sump adapters, pro engines make the sump adapters + more

Can i have one?

No i meant the billet main cap bottom end has a sump adapter but can only be used on R.I.P.S s billet main cap bottom end and you cant use this sump adapter with a standard girdle.

Im not sure if they make just a standard sump adapter like pro engines one.

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No i meant the billet main cap bottom end has a sump adapter but can only be used on R.I.P.S s billet main cap bottom end and you cant use this sump adapter with a standard girdle.

Im not sure if they make just a standard sump adapter like pro engines one.

Ahh k gotcha, yeh they do make the normal sump adapters

If you dont want to rev it hard just go for the normal adapter plate.

the bottom end will cost you the same as a 26 to build.

Adapter plate is somewhere around $1000

But if you want to rev it mine owes me about $14000 thats a R.I.P.S billet main cap bottom end.

we overlayed our circuit cars dyno chart with both power and torque against the GT-RS's on the drag car and you would swear it was the same car.

The low mounts at 22psi and the T04Z at 24psi...same power but the low-mounts power was made a little earlier and held on for longer...same with the torque...both are HKS powered cars but the circuit car was on Sunoco and the drag car was on BP98.

hey paul - was the T04Z or GTRS turbo's modified in any way?

ive always liked the idea of running twins on a gtr - the 2 'balls' of the godzilla!

hey paul - was the T04Z or GTRS turbo's modified in any way?

ive always liked the idea of running twins on a gtr - the 2 'balls' of the godzilla!

The T04Z is an off the shelf HKS item. The GT-RS' were modified Red R Racing spec items.

Shanef, (with tounge in cheek) I'm so glad you know all about my products, what they can do and what they can't what they include and what they dont and what works with what and what doesn't, saves me alot of time, incredible :P (couldn't find sarcastic face, lol)

IMO the sump bolts play a key part in holding the whole deal together, you wouldn't be happy to let the sealer dry then pull out the bolts would you?

If you can spread load in any direction and minimise it at any point it has to be an advantage and the sump bolts are definatly to be counted as an integral part of the bottom end.

Rob

Shanef, (with tounge in cheek) I'm so glad you know all about my products, what they can do and what they can't what they include and what they dont and what works with what and what doesn't, saves me alot of time, incredible :P (couldn't find sarcastic face, lol)

IMO the sump bolts play a key part in holding the whole deal together, you wouldn't be happy to let the sealer dry then pull out the bolts would you?

If you can spread load in any direction and minimise it at any point it has to be an advantage and the sump bolts are definatly to be counted as an integral part of the bottom end.

Rob

And dont forget the oil drain bung. (looks for same sarcastic face)

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