Targa Tasmania 2009

[Snowman]

I'm personally feeling sorry for Rod these days. He's copped it far too hard I reckon. Who knows where his head was at 3s after going from 100-0km/hr in <1s.

Anyhoo....

And Ben - we were running 550's in ours and I reckon they are pretty well bang on.

[Marlin]

I'm personally feeling sorry for Rod these days. He's copped it far too hard I reckon. Who knows where his head was at 3s after going from 100-0km/hr in <1s.

I hear you. Everyone makes a mistake at some time, and it's my personal opinion that what goes on in the car, stays in the car.

I have a theory, and it may be a weak one, that when Rod was saying"where was the f**king chicane call?", he wasn't so much asking Sammy as asking himself, like, where was it in his brain and why did he miss it? It's only a theory, mainly because I could hear myself asking myself the same question out loud if in a similar situation.

Regardless, the first question after a hit like that should be "are you ok?".

2. I definately would have got off the brakes and just hit the chicane. Hitting a chicane isn't the end of the world, flat spotting all four tyres and going hard into the scenery is. Check out the skid marks in Sav's video at 3:34!

[Marlin]

I thought it would be interesting to have a look at our footage, to listen to the calls as well. Now, Timmy might like to chime in here as well, but I reckon that if I hadn't been watching for the chicane distance markers we would have gone strait through them...... as it was we were pretty close to the braking limit, as the call was "keep right over crest straight, 80, chicane".

I'll upload the vid for you to judge.

[sav man]

Really? 330.... in a GTR?!?! Are you sure? I ran harder than that in the gts. Must have ridden nice before! lol

314 actually, i measured them up to help a mate set his car up leading upto 08. 314 f 208 r. I checked it on 3-4 different calculators at the time, cause i thought it was way to soft number.

how heavy is your car snowy? ours was 1608 fully fueled, spare tyre, and the other crap you have to carry.

[targa]

314 actually, i measured them up to help a mate set his car up leading upto 08. 314 f 208 r. I checked it on 3-4 different calculators at the time, cause i thought it was way to soft number.

how heavy is your car snowy? ours was 1608 fully fueled, spare tyre, and the other crap you have to carry.

Mine weigh in at 1658kgs half full with fuel

not the lightest in the field

[Kel]

I hear you. Everyone makes a mistake at some time, and it's my personal opinion that what goes on in the car, stays in the car.

I have a theory, and it may be a weak one, that when Rod was saying"where was the f**king chicane call?", he wasn't so much asking Sammy as asking himself, like, where was it in his brain and why did he miss it? It's only a theory, mainly because I could hear myself asking myself the same question out loud if in a similar situation.

Regardless, the first question after a hit like that should be "are you ok?".

2. I definately would have got off the brakes and just hit the chicane. Hitting a chicane isn't the end of the world, flat spotting all four tyres and going hard into the scenery is. Check out the skid marks in Sav's video at 3:34!

I thought it was interesting that Rod actually let that footage leave the car in the first place.

Don't know what he was thinking but I do know he's copping a caning across the interweb for it now though!

While the 'are you ok?' question is the first thing that should be asked, people sometimes say and do innappropriate things when in shock. I'd be pissed off if the first thing I heard after a crash like that was blame, but then I'd like to think I could be level headed enough to let it go and have a proper conversation about it (or a punch up ) when things had settled.

[Kel]

I thought it would be interesting to have a look at our footage, to listen to the calls as well. Now, Timmy might like to chime in here as well, but I reckon that if I hadn't been watching for the chicane distance markers we would have gone strait through them...... as it was we were pretty close to the braking limit, as the call was "keep right over crest straight, 80, chicane".

I'll upload the vid for you to judge.

It's easy to see why many were caught out (or almost caught out) by that particular chicane. I think drivers are perhaps just too used to them being placed in the middle of long, fast straights with good visability.

Regardless, the signs were there, and people's notes should have reflected the crest and short distance to chicane after it?

I am pretty sure it was cautioned in our notes (from memory, any with limited visibility were) - that said I think we went into it a little quicker than I think Steve would have liked.

[Targa Tom]

Footage...They would have signed stat dec like us all to say the event owns the footage.

Signs.. notes brain fade, I dunno motorsport incident. The guy had an off the previous year, so maybe there is a pattern, or maybe he is trying hard and making the odd error.

"Trying hard enough to win - Trying hard enough to crash!"

I biffed my partner into the bank at sheffield in 04. I think it was "Its all over honey - get the triangles... I can imagine someone who has done lots of circuit and had some prangs forgetting there was another in the car.

One thing I cant quite hear - (noisey here) but I think Sam did say "get off it get off it" Now if she was talking about the brakes - marks to her. If she is washing clothes in public - points deducted.

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[Snowman]

how heavy is your car snowy? ours was 1608 fully fueled, spare tyre, and the other crap you have to carry.

Mine was 1674 for TT. Because you can add things like DVD players and full surround speakers to the things still in my car! LOL

[Marlin]

Very well said Greg.... as bloody usual you silver tongued bastard

This is ours, about 3:20 or something I think.

Do you think some drivers don't actually look at athe signs? Or maybe they simply notice the signs but think they're a caution board (you know, with red triangle)? I'm just trying to understand.....

Greg would be familiar, if you're running in a podium position, it's normal for the event cameramen to come and collect your in-car footage at the first opportunity. No questions asked. As Greg said, they own the footage.

Edited May 25, 2009 by Marlin

[Merli]

Was the link to the in-car footage from the TMR EVO posted in this thread? I can't seem to find it.

[Marlin]

Not sure Andrew, but here it is at 4:10 mate

[Kel]

I’d still be having a quiet word about that footage not seeing the light of day, deal or no deal …and yes, I am a little naïve sometimes, still believe in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and a world where producers don’t select content for sensationalism

I know we sign away everything when we run cameras in the car, but as Ben has said some things should stay in the car. That incident, and the discussions which have followed, to do not make anyone involved look good IMHO.

[sav man]

here is my first run with trackview, and my own dash

http://www.vimeo.com/4835983 - cethana

[Marlin]

That shit is way cool init

You didn't do over a thousand kays/hr??? Lame Ben, lame......

[sav man]

yep couldn't find a flux capasiter for the skyline.

[navdan]

...Because you can add things like DVD players and full surround speakers to the things still in my car! LOL

Thank you for that...came in handy on those long transports on day 2

[Marlin]

Bugger it... here's some more in car lol

Tungahtinah, day 5.... fastest classic

Queenstown... slow as a wet week. No grip man!

Check the grip at 4:05 through 4:15, and again at 4:35.... I got nothin.... The campaign was pretty much over by now

And Lowana, leg 4. - I didn't realise how much of a crack we had at this one. 7th outright, and only 6 seconds off Quinny!

coulda binned it, ohhhh, 3 times on this one. Why didn't you say something Timmy!?!?! lol

Edited June 3, 2009 by Marlin

[Necx0]

Crikey I have watched all your videos Ben (which I suppose makes me some sort of sad groupie!) and Lowana is the fastest I have seen you drive. Damn that is commitment, could have gone horribly wrong on that one. I was scratching my head as to how a 32 can match a 996 but yeh, very impressive

[Kel]

Bugger it... here's some more in car lol

And Lowana, leg 4. - I didn't realise how much of a crack we had at this one. 7th outright, and only 6 seconds off Quinny!

coulda binned it, ohhhh, 3 times on this one. Why didn't you say something Timmy!?!?! lol

<sigh> rally withdrawal x 10 after watching

Amazing effort especially with Lowana Ben and Timmy- you can see the committment.

Funny thing is I bet you were travelling 5 times faster than that in car reflected- todays cams are very good but still don't really give a sense of how fast or how close!