Rear Swaybars To Suit C34 That Fit

[BensDR30]

I've read all the suspension threads, watched the old Whiteline group buy 'happen' and finally decided that upgrading the rear bar on my S1 was on the agenda...

So I picked up a non-adjustable Whiteline bar (BNR11X), mindful of the fact that the rear cradle in the non-260RS models is a little wider than the GT-R/260RS.

Guess what? It didn't fit - by a mile. There was no way that this bar would mate up with the Stagea mounting points. Even an adjustable bar would have the end links on an unacceptable angle, and the main span was just too short.

So I returned it this morning and got talking with the staff at the store (Car Torque in Kent Town, Adelaide) about the situation.

They called Whiteline and got some measurements out of them (which were confirmed as not suitable), we also discussed some of the relationships, ownerships & politics now in play between Whiteline (Redmans) and Selbys. Note that Selbys spun off as an independant company from Whiteline when Redmans (Noltec) took over a couple of years back (post the original group-buy). This has significantly changed the landscape in regards to availability and in some cases the QA of the parts that are now on offer.

Now Selbys web site does list a bar to suit the C34, but it's the same part as the 33GTST & 33GTR - which we all know are not an ideal fit, and in some cases, not a fit at all.

So here's what's happening; Car Torque are sending my factory rear bar to Selbys for a direct copy (ETA ~10 days). They are getting a few made in both adjustable & non-adjustable for stock here in Adelaide (and keeping a template for the future). So, if you want to get a bar that fits, 100% - no stuffing around, then contact Car Torque ( [email protected] ) and get involved. I don't know how much the bars will be yet, but will post when I do. But they did tell me that they get a significant number of issues such as this (Toyota Aristo for example) that it now warrants them keeping an inventory of 'custom' bars that aren't officially listed by the manufacturer, but are in demand.

This isn't a group buy, nor a FS, but a community service to those who need something better than the OEM 'tent pole' that pretends to be a rear sway bar on the 1st generation Stagea - and don't want to have problems installing it.

[wolverine]

my RS4S rear bar was sent off to 2 years ago to re-profile the original design as it fouled the exhaust.

i wonder who has that profile stored??

[BensDR30]

my RS4S rear bar was sent off to 2 years ago to re-profile the original design as it fouled the exhaust.

i wonder who has that profile stored??

The story I got on that front was that unless the profile was one that was derived from the manufacturers own R&D (i.e. not from a customer) they considered the bar to be a one-off and wouldn't catalogue it.

(I suppose because there is a chance that your bar isn't really what you claim it is...therefore who has the liability for errors?)

[KiwiRS4T]

Another warning: if you order the front bar from the group buy list, BNR27(Z) you are likely to get a bar which is exactly the same as the one you have (22mm). You need to specify BNR27 X or XX (Z for adjustable) and that it needs to be 24mm for a Stagea. These are made to order. I went to a lot of trouble (and expense) to get one sent from Selby to me in NZ only to destroy it in a crash a few months later. I won't bother replacing it though as it seemed to make little difference and an even heavier one could induce understeer. Luckily the rear one fitted and was a worthwhile upgrade.

[wolverine]

i discussed the issue with SK and with Whiteline. we overlayed both bars and there was a larger space on the factory bar to relieve the exhaust compared to the Whiteline bar so at their expense they took my original rear bar and made a new one.

i would be surprised if they didn't keep the profile for all other stageas since it was profiled from an OEM bar and would suit RS4S, RS4V and 260RS.

[_Ryan_]

SK was useless for that shit.

i got my bars through GT suspension, just be very clear when ordering.... good to see you are sending in your bar

i reccomend the front bar too, and both as adjustables(unless fixed is same as full hard)

[BensDR30]

I'm not sure where the adjustable settings fit when compared to the fixed bar. I guess measuring the location of the adjustment holes and comparing them to the fixed bar would be the only real way to tell - Anyone with a fixed (OEM/aftermarket) bar & adjustable one want to compare the end-section lengths in relation to the holes?

Ryan, what size is your front bar; 22 or 24mm?

and

What position do you have your in?

I'm mindful of going too big not only for understeer/oversteer reasons, but on the early S30 Z chassis' the mounts could actually tear out of the body with really stiff bars fitted...

I'm hoping that the late model stuff has a few extra welds around the threaded sections of the bodywork, but it really sux when you tear a mounting out of the floor!

(Thankfully I haven't had that problem on my car!)

Also, I took the C34 for a drive tonight (had a need for 2 cars on the road at once) and you know, I couldn't really tell that there was no rear bar fitted... Either I didn't turn corners hard enough, or it's exceptionally piss-poor from factory!

[KiwiRS4T]

Yep rear bar is p- weak from factory 19mm hollow (I cut mine in half to check) new one is 22mm solid - big difference. I bought non- adjustable. I reckon you could do your own alternative mounts if you really wanted.

[_Ryan_]

mine are the fastest you could order, 24 rear i think.... in the wet i can hold full lock slides no issues

[BensDR30]

New rear bar fitted, and prices available. See here for details:

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...t&p=4657579