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[bezender]

u should get on to Kristian from Iron Chef. like u said u dont mind waiting a bit, and from all reports i have heard he is the best there is

[Inline 6]

godzilla japanese icon nuff said

Edited June 19, 2009 by Inline 6

[Damo_R34]

get an S15, chuck in a 2J + manual box, and you have an awesome streeter/ track vehicle.

[steveP]

mustang with rb26.. i hear they do some pretty good mountain top battles.

[Inline 6]

but they not the mona lisa of the drift world.

actually dont get godzilla they lose to damn corollas AE86 best bang for buck car out there 15k for 130hp

[Weezy]

I'm going to say go the GT-R naturally I Daily mine and I havn't had an issue with cop attention either.

[Dohmar]

I'm going to say go the GT-R naturally I Daily mine and I havn't had an issue with cop attention either.

I have to agree, however I would add that any car that is 15-20 years old is going to have wear and tear issues. This is natural and nothing to be worried about, you just have to be aware that over the time you own it, you'll need to replace one thing after another (unless you drop even more cash and do a complete rebuild from scratch)

that said, I don't begrudge the money i've spent. provided no smeghead collides with me and I don't screw up and crash, then I anticipate I'll be keeping the car for a long while, and I believe that in the next couple years I'll be replacing the rest of the old and tired gear as it is. Engine builds can be considered an extra, however I still have 210-220kw 20 years later. Its quite common for a non thrashed rb engine to get the pistons removed and still have the original hone marks visible (at least thats what my mechanic told me when discussing my rb30)...

a car will never make you money - as long as you accept that and see the vehicle as something you have to feed and clean and pay for health care (like a kid) then you won't be so bothered

(Disclaimer - I hate kids and would rather have a gtr but thats just me Your mileage may vary)

-D

[Iron Chef]

My opinion - for $20K...

RX-7 - you're gonna end up with something with higher kms, and once rotaries get over about 70,000km, they turn into disasters if the previous owner hasn't maintained it.

V35 - never get a decent coupe under $25K, they seem to be fetching stupid prices in Japan at the moment, even high km ones. You'd get a really nice sedan for $20K though, but I'd take a Y34 Cedric/Gloria over one every day of the week.

R32 GT-R - even the owners on here will admit that getting a tired/rough/high-km example is a recipe for disaster in terms of the money you'd need to spend to keep it on the road. Having said that, $20K will buy you a nice, low-km 1994 GT-R, but V-Specs and V-Spec 2s are a stack more than that.

The other option already mentioned is an Evo 6 (not a Makkinen) or even an Evo 5, one hell of a performance car for the money, and so easy to modify.

[Dohmar]

+1 to all of the above

"That Cat Knows His Shit" - Dohmar, talking about Iron Chef

-D

EDIT - One thing I will disagree with Kristian is on mileage - you can get some very high mileage vehicles that have been immaculately maintained

Conversely, you can get the very opposite, low mileage cars that have not been cared for. Some japanese people dont ever service their cars because they just dont drive as much as us. The reality is that its somewhere in between, which is made all the harder due to the prevalence of aftermarket r32 gtr speedos (for 280/320kph limit) - when this happens you have no idea as to how many KM's its done. Thats why you'll generally pay more for a GTR that still has >everything< stock, regardless of the mileage reported. and the vspec 1 and 2's are becoming very rare now as people realize that they are becoming collectors items - for the money they will be worth, its almost worth trying to source a crashed vspec2 with an intact chassis and vin and then rebuilding from scratch. heh. end rant.

Edited June 19, 2009 by Dohmar

[Iron Chef]

+1 to all of the above

"That Cat Knows His Shit" - Dohmar, talking about Iron Chef

-D

EDIT - One thing I will disagree with Kristian is on mileage - you can get some very high mileage vehicles that have been immaculately maintained

Conversely, you can get the very opposite, low mileage cars that have not been cared for. Some japanese people dont ever service their cars because they just dont drive as much as us. The reality is that its somewhere in between, which is made all the harder due to the prevalence of aftermarket r32 gtr speedos (for 280/320kph limit) - when this happens you have no idea as to how many KM's its done. Thats why you'll generally pay more for a GTR that still has >everything< stock, regardless of the mileage reported. and the vspec 1 and 2's are becoming very rare now as people realize that they are becoming collectors items - for the money they will be worth, its almost worth trying to source a crashed vspec2 with an intact chassis and vin and then rebuilding from scratch. heh. end rant.

That's why I wrote rough/tired/high-km You're right - they don't always go together. On balance of probabilities a lower km one is going to be in better condition though

[Jonno34]

i'd go evo 6 mate, their nice cars, big and roomy too so its pretty good for a daily.

i think you can get evo 7's for a bit more than 20k nowadays though, like 25k or so should get a decent one.

if you wanna use it for a daily id think something a bit newer would be bit better, outta those options i'd go either the evos or the 34 gt-t.

thats just me though, evo's n 34's r my favourite cars

[shy_s6]

or get a gtr thats had nearly everything replaced built donk, new brakes , new rubbers for all the sus, new clutch ect ect ect

[writeoff]

If i was to buy a 32gtr, i'd want a mint, factory standard one. That looks the goods, but the price worries me.

Why? So you could stress about the oil pick up design fault, the ceramic turbos that are 20 years old, a gearbox that is probably losing 4th or the internals that may go bang on a proper launch?

If I had my time again and was buying an R32 GTR again I would buy one that looks stock but has steel wheeled ball bearing turbos, forged internals and corrected the oil problem.

As for the OP - without knowing the exact prices of these things I would go the most modern car that you can - either a R34 GTT or the V35. Potentially way less things to fix in the short term and at a much lower cost than a GTR or RX7.

Remember kiddies - GTRs EAT $. Seriously! Think of them as a Pac Man eating your payslips. That is reality. Ask the many GTR owners on this forum. They will, or previous owners would have, sunk lots of $ into their cars. Either that or they are doing cheaper, short cut, temporary repairs that are less than ideal and will likely create more problems at some stage in the future.

Edited June 20, 2009 by writeoff

[Jonno34]

damn you serious?

im thinking of swapping my 25gt 34 for a gt-r in a couple years once i have more money, either a 33 or a 34

would it be cheaper to do the gt-r body + stick in a turbo and a couple more performance mods or just get a full gt-r?

sorry to jack the thread

[Dohmar]

damn you serious?

im thinking of swapping my 25gt 34 for a gt-r in a couple years once i have more money, either a 33 or a 34

would it be cheaper to do the gt-r body + stick in a turbo and a couple more performance mods or just get a full gt-r?

sorry to jack the thread

if its not a GTR its not a GTR. Yeah theyre all expensive, but people keep them because they do actually live up to the hype.

Just get a 34 or 33 gtr, fix whatever needs fixing and enjoy relatively hassle free ownership. a 32 gtr will cost less to buy but cost you more in the long run due to its age and inherent oil problems/ceramic turbos/wear and tear. If you can afford it, 34 gtr all the way, otherwise you can get well maintained 33 gtrs for 26-30k

and in a couple of years time the 34 gtrs will be cheaper still but will be showing their age a bit more - consider that when you come to being in a position to buy one

-D

[SLED]

i'd go evo 6 mate, their nice cars, big and roomy too so its pretty good for a daily.

i think you can get evo 7's for a bit more than 20k nowadays though, like 25k or so should get a decent one.

if you wanna use it for a daily id think something a bit newer would be bit better, outta those options i'd go either the evos or the 34 gt-t.

thats just me though, evo's n 34's r my favourite cars

yeah I'm starting to appreciate the EVO's more & more as I see them going around Malalla and the hill climbs.......definitely couldn't go wrong there for that sort of money.......a 32GTR would be my 1st choice naturally but at that price you'll be spending alot more on it me thinks, not to mention that EVO's tend to go under the radar literally.

Probably a question for Kristian though; in the same way the '99 & '00 WRX and the 32GTR are cult cars, was there a particular model EVO that has a similar tag......obviously Tommy Makinen 6.5 comes to mind.....any EVO experts out there?

[Jonno34]

well most of my mates who really love evo's are into the 9

i can see why, its one of my favourites too

but yeah the 6 would definitely be a big hit too especially the 6.5 tommy makinen

yeah cheers dohmar, by the time im ready to get a real gt-r i think the 34 would be relatively affordable.

was mainly considering insurance/maintenance costs, but for a gt-r its worth it xD

[Dohmar]

well most of my mates who really love evo's are into the 9

i can see why, its one of my favourites too

but yeah the 6 would definitely be a big hit too especially the 6.5 tommy makinen

yeah cheers dohmar, by the time im ready to get a real gt-r i think the 34 would be relatively affordable.

was mainly considering insurance/maintenance costs, but for a gt-r its worth it xD

you got that right man. while i'm always gonna be partial to the 32 gtr, a well maintained r34 gtr will be affordable in 2 years time, and as sled can affirm, they are beasts

32's are keeping their value tho i must say, and a well maintained 32 gtr will still be worth $25k in 2 years time imho - tho you'll see some thrashed ones for $10-15k too

-D

[Inline 6]

Remember kiddies - GTRs EAT $. Seriously! Think of them as a Pac Man eating your payslips. That is reality. Ask the many GTR owners on this forum. They will, or previous owners would have, sunk lots of $ into their cars. Either that or they are doing cheaper, short cut, temporary repairs that are less than ideal and will likely create more problems at some stage in the future.

mines ate f all i keep track of it account nerd

only serious costs ive had with it are defect related and resulting engineers report. but then if anything does brake on them its usually a lil more pricey for the gtr parts. still theres no way i regret buying it.

also depends on how much u like to thrash it and how much its been thrashed prior to you owning it

Edited June 20, 2009 by Inline 6

[Jonno34]

well i treat my car like baby i dont drive it really hard, just love getting admired haha

definitely going for the gt-r upgrade in a couple of years then

sorry for jacking the post