Suspension Budget Without The Sour Taste

[Mr GTR-32]

Hi there i own a R32 GTR and i am looking at getting rid of my Hicas, once the car was on the hoist i began to think maybe i will do a few more upgrades to my suspension, i already have Tein monoflex coil overs. But still retain stock sway bars.

Front castor arms adjustable, front camber arms which i will be buying the unique autosports new adjustable items soon, rear hicas lock out bar, rear traction arms,etc etc.

Now i know that the great brands are Cusco, Ikea formula as an example, but i want to know has anyone used any of the Just jap gear and i dont want haters replying but guys who have tried there stuff and have good advice and info to give.

Some of their gear i know is 2 times cheaper but is it good enough for a mainly street car which will see occasional track work. I heard some say that the gear has come along way and alright but others say its crap.

Its attractive because i can gear out my entire car with less than half of the cost of the jap brands but i dont want a sour taste 6-7months down the track if its not worth it and should have just kept my original gear.

Any thoughts or advice will be great.

cheers,

Dave.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

dont write this off as a hater comment, more a helpful one.... those rims in your avatar.... lose them.

they appear to b cheap china made 20's yes? and would weigh 8 billion kg's...

get some 2nd hand jap rims in 17/18 and you'll already have a performance increase.\

as for swaybars, selby's make great products and are at a good price

[Mr GTR-32]

Thanks for that but i have already got my original gtr rims on them for the last 1.5yrs thats an old pic haha i know they are shit cheap rims will change the pic to avoid more comments.

But any one else have any info on these parts, hoping to get some of the real gurus advice please

[NA_Goodness]

Thank god those rims dont exist any more...

Whiteline make good parts, and are Australian owned.

[Mr GTR-32]

haha wow i had no idea people are so passionate about the rims on skylines, thanks Rhys for the input but i really would like to know some info about the just jap gear.

[prescott06]

I've seen a few comments from people that have experienced the welds on some JJR gear cracking. Though that might have been older stuff and I've considered using the JJR R33 front upper arms.

Personally I've used arms from ISC and Drift Shop and had no problems, they are both 'budget' brands too. Maybe consider those also?

[bozodos]

might just jump into this thread without starting a new one, but does anyone sell urethane bush kits to suit R32 GT-R/4 at a reasonable price? I can only seem to find them on ebay and a kit listing on the Superpro website k ta.

[Sydneykid]

might just jump into this thread without starting a new one, but does anyone sell urethane bush kits to suit R32 GT-R/4 at a reasonable price? I can only seem to find them on ebay and a kit listing on the Superpro website k ta.

I think I have a full set in stock at home, my usual mix of Whiteline Plus (nee Noltec), Whiteline Flat Out and SuperPro. No one brand has all of them that give the right amount and type of adjustment. The problem with R32's these days is that they are getting on, they are heavy and very few have had gentle lives. So almost always every bush is stuffed. Most guys also do the HICAS elimination at the same time as it saves doing the rear end alignment twice So the parts cost is rarely under $1.5K, PM me if you want a detailed break down.

The usual stuff for R32GTR's is;

Caster Kit

Front Camber Kit Outer

Front Camber Kit Inner

Steering Rack Bushes

Gearbox Mount Bushes

Rear Subframe Bushes

Rear Subframe Alignment Kit

Diff support bushes

HICAS Elimination Kit

Lower Control Arm Inner

Rear Camber Kit Inner (does upper control arm and traction rod inner)

Rear Camber Kit Outer (does upper control arm and traction rod outer)

Cheers

Gary

[wayne bolton]

Thank god those rims dont exist any more...

Whiteline make good parts, and are Australian owned.

australian owned but not australian made anymore for most bits

[Mr GTR-32]

Yep unfortunately most parts are not really manufactured in Oz anymore all Chinese mainly it's a shame, anyone else used the just jap suspension gear!!

[Aidan]

Isn't there still a selby branch down in melbourne that does Aus manufactured items? I read this somewhere not too long ago. Could be wrong though. Whiteline are still a great product though. No info regarding the Just Jap stuff though. Mate of mine is using some of the ISC stuff though and they seem pretty good.

[wayne bolton]

Selbys swaybars are still australian owned and made with australian bought steel.

Selbys is in the old whiteline building with most of the same staff that have been there bending the swaybars for the past 14 years

[Mr GTR-32]

Wouldn't be surprised if the oz steel they use is recycled skyline and S15 Silvias that all these young guys are wrapping around poles hahah when they go drifting on rainy days.

[cazman]

http://www.cazmanindustries.com/

Aussie made, not chinese. Better materials than any thing on the market.

[Mr GTR-32]

How would these be compared to a cusco or ikea formula product sounds ok but has it be tried and really tested like the popular jap brands to give a comparison.

[bradsm87]

Things like caster rods etc don't need to be "tried and really tested". It's this mentality that holds things up from moving forward (look at the T04Z fanboys for example).

The material is as strong or stronger than cusco. The bearings are better so there is no need to wait for a zillion people to use em first. Youknow they're gonna be great.

[Mr GTR-32]

Brad you have a point but the thing is alot of items look great sound great but don't deliver. Some people like myself don't have the money to be a test dummy by all means this product may be far superior to cusco etc but like anything real life performance feed back usage of a product will be the difference as to how good it really is and whether it will sell, I base my money expenditure on what is tried can't help I like to play it safe.

Cheers,

Dave

[bnr#@]

The bearings in cusco arms are from NMB and are one of the highest quality aircraft bearings in the world. They are the default bearing for Airbus planes and are also used in some of the V8 super cars, among many other applications

Try tracking some of these things down (the only place I found that could help was a racing outfit at the silverstone race track who also supplied them to the 888 V8 racing team), the cost is horrific for a bearing.l

So going out and saying that something is better then that is a pretty big call, u sure as hell wont find anything better at any old bearing supplier (especially in oz).

As an example, my cusco caster rods have now done 51000 ks (a bit of track and a lot of road) from new and show no signs of wear what so ever

[Mr GTR-32]

Thanks bnr#@ finally some good info from someone that has used this product for a long period of time, great info on the bearings thanks for sharing your experience.

Cheers,

Dave