Lend Me A Consult Cable

[NewKleer]

it comes with a cd that has the drivers and software on it, so u dont need to download them (but can if you want to have a look). between ecutalk and obd scantech software should have you covered for 95% of what youd want to do.

[Hanso]

^^ Sounds good, you have PM.

[910trx]

i have an ecu talk because no one in my dumbshit hick town where i used to live would even look at the stagea - cant pronounce the name of the car then we cant fix it...

so i had to do it myself...

but found out the issue i had with a engine check light was just a hot o2 sensor -PHEW! - happened a few more times

but just plug it in, run software, check error codes, clear

i also like having the guages up on the laptop screen and going for a spin - makes me feel like Brian in the F&F LOL

great product champ!

[reiseva]

added one to the list. near the top too. looking forward to using it!

[pipster11]

added one to the list. near the top too. looking forward to using it!

its good, just wish i could use mine (no radiator in the car atm )

just incase some ppl who have ecutalk displays and didn't get the email from peter, the new software update now means that your fuel consumption info is saved when its turned off!!!!

[Hanso]

Quick question. I'm using my consult cable for the 1st time with the Ecutalk software. What size are the stock injectors ie 250cc?

[QWK32]

370cc

[pipster11]

i worked out that mine (s2) are flowing about 351cc (must be a bit clogged)

you should have got the display, so awesome

seems that 80kmh in 5th is economical but also 120kmh is more economical than 100kmh (larger vac than at 100, more off boost torque/power)

[andynogo]

More economical the faster you go? Sounds good to me- at 200 you'd probably be using just about no fuel!

[pipster11]

no i'm just saying that for some reason the engine is at a lower vac (trying harder) at around 100 rather than at 120

but in saying that i noticed that the closer i got to melblourne the better the economy got due to smoother flatter roads

[NewKleer]

More economical the faster you go? Sounds good to me- at 200 you'd probably be using just about no fuel!

thats a massive jump to make it to that conclusion based on 2 reference points. remember car's torque curve isnt flat (otherwise itd be a torque flat!), and more precisely the efficiency of the engine in making power varies greatly with load and RPM.

[910trx]

i find the stag has the best economy at around 130 - unfortunately the speeding fines cancel out the savings you made.

notice when you drive your stag that driving at 100 is nearly impossible?

b4 i got cruise control i found myself constantly speeding at it has a sweet spot at around 130

been a while since i used it but does ecu talk software display economy w/o the display?

got a road trip coming up and might be worth setting up the laptop on the back seat

[pipster11]

i find the stag has the best economy at around 130 - unfortunately the speeding fines cancel out the savings you made.

notice when you drive your stag that driving at 100 is nearly impossible?

b4 i got cruise control i found myself constantly speeding at it has a sweet spot at around 130

been a while since i used it but does ecu talk software display economy w/o the display?

got a road trip coming up and might be worth setting up the laptop on the back seat

yeah i found that too

90 is a good speed and so is 130, its a bit odd

the ecu talk software will do economy too but you have to set the injector size - be warned that they never flow their specified amount, my neo injectors are set to 351 but someone elses are set to 340

[QWK32]

yeah i found that too

90 is a good speed and so is 130, its a bit odd

the ecu talk software will do economy too but you have to set the injector size - be warned that they never flow their specified amount, my neo injectors are set to 351 but someone elses are set to 340

on an auto its about 120 on the dial. car/engine seems to want to sit about there comfortably and it give the best hi-way economy. also i found that when resizing injectors with nistune a value of 380cc-385cc worked best with the equation (which happens to be the value nistune lists as the stock injector cc). anyway, i wouldn't really take any notice of those electronic displayed fuel consumption figures, the misses swift has a fuel economy display and it gives off some ridiculous readings sometimes, only really useful when a constant acceleration and cruising speed is used.

Edited February 19, 2010 by QWK32

[pipster11]

on an auto its about 120 on the dial. car/engine seems to want to sit about there comfortably and it give the best hi-way economy. also i found that when resizing injectors with nistune a value of 380cc-385cc worked best with the equation (which happens to be the value nistune lists as the stock injector cc). anyway, i wouldn't really take any notice of those electronic displayed fuel consumption figures, the misses swift has a fuel economy display and it gives off some ridiculous readings sometimes, only really useful when a constant acceleration and cruising speed is used.

thats when i use it for, the ecutalk display also refreshes faster than any stock fuel consumption display i've seen so the readings are pretty accurate

someone posted up an excel spread sheet and all you do is fill in current inj size, fuel ecutalk thinks you've used and fuel you actaully put in and it tells you what to set your injectors to

[NewKleer]

the misses swift has a fuel economy display and it gives off some ridiculous readings sometimes, only really useful when a constant acceleration and cruising speed is used.

if your swift's one is crap doesnt mean that all of them are. ive been in a subaru with one that was pretty accurate. and how do you know the readings are incorrect? instant readings are instant ones, not the average for the trip, so its not unusual to see 50+ L/100KM while accelerating, or 1-2L/100km under engine braking or high speed in neutral. make sure you understand what the reading is before assuming it must be incorrect.

'calibrating' the ecutalk one is pretty simple - fill up the tank, reset ecutalk (cleartrip in options), do some driving, then when it comes to fill up again next week or whenever, compare fuel filled up with at bowser, with what the ecutalk reads, and use this to adjust injector CC size.

e.g. newINJsizeInECUTalk = currentINJsizeInECUTalk * (fuelIN / fuelECUTalk)

so if u started with stock 370cc, and find you used 45L fuel when u filled up but ecutalk read 50L, then 370 * 45.1 / 47.3 = 353cc

then repeat the next time. this of course assumes the display is running on the main screen the entire time the engine is running (not sitting on a menu or something where it isnt recording, for a long period). and it will also depend as to how level the car is as to whether your filling it up 'full' is to the same 'full' amount as last time - car on an angle leaning away from the rear side you fill up compared to leaning towards can make a big difference.

[andynogo]

Does the consult cable and software work for the M35 model?

[NewKleer]

that sounds like an OBDII/ConsultII vehicle, so no it would not.

[QWK32]

if your swift's one is crap doesnt mean that all of them are. ive been in a subaru with one that was pretty accurate. and how do you know the readings are incorrect? instant readings are instant ones, not the average for the trip, so its not unusual to see 50+ L/100KM while accelerating, or 1-2L/100km under engine braking or high speed in neutral. make sure you understand what the reading is before assuming it must be incorrect.

yeah i understand the readings that will be shown under hard acceleration and during idle. but we sometimes get readings of 16 LPH just putting around at 60kph, other times it says 7 or 8 LPH Sorry, don't get me wrong, i wasn't bad mouthing your software or your displays. For me, having a real time fuel consumption display is kind of pointless. Sure it will show you get better fuel economy at 130kph than at 100kph at Tom said, but thats not really going to help you being stuck in 100kph speed limits. I'm more interested in how many km's i get from a tank, for majority highway driving i'd expect more that just city driving. but again, thats just my opinion.

Do your displays/software have a feature where it will show that for this 65L of fuel just used, i drove 450 km which averages ~14 LPH?

Edited February 20, 2010 by QWK32

[NewKleer]

yeah, maybe the swift one is buggy then. of course it wont help knowing that 130km/h may be better, but it can help determine whether 4th or 5th is better at 80km/h or the difference between hard/calm driving, engine braking and whatever.

the displays record all the fuel/distance/time elapsed for all trips, so on the 'all trips' display its going to show you how much fuel has been used, what LPH, whats the average speed, and average fuel economy, total distance, and total time elapsed. has seperate readings of the same data just for the current trip on the other trip meter screen.

its been so long since ive used the software, but i think it records long term data, cant remember. but the display is much more useful for everyday driving since u dont need the laptop.