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Hanaldo

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Hanaldo Grand Master

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Hey guys,

Just wanted to find out for sure if the stock GTT ECU has an ISO14230 connector? I am looking to buy a Greddy Informeter Touch, which is an OBD2 monitor that plugs straight in to the ISO14230 connector. It can also connect to Nissan CONSULT. I just want to make sure that it is compatible with my car before i buy it.

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Martin

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Hanaldo Grand Master

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I just went and had a look at my car, and there is a little panel that pops out down near my feet, near the bonnet release lever. There is a wiring harness that comes out from that, would that be my ISO14230?

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it should be consult

Thanks for that mate.

I will have to get confirmation from Greddy about whether it can measure boost, oil and water temperature with the non-OBD connector. I may end up going with ARK MFD as that just splices straight into the ECU's wires so it is compatible with any car... Will wait to hear back from Greddy first though.

Thanks for your help guys

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thats OBD2 port so i would say yes

just in case anyone reads this and thinks its correct, its not. R34 does NOT have an OBD2 port, only a consult port. V35 and up have OBD2 port.

so yes it has the consult port. OBD1 isnt really a standard, people just use OBD/OBD1 to often mean 'something which isnt OBD2', so its not good to use OBD/OBD1 in terms of identifying a diagnostics port at all.

the ECU doesnt read boost and oil, so unless the touch has external wiring for that, you wont get that.

make sure you consider the ECUTalk V2 display before spending 3 times as much on a toy.

normally for monitoring people will get a consult device + gauges for the un-monitorable via consult (oil temp and/or pressure, boost, and sometimes wideband o2 and EGT).

Hanaldo Grand Master

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just in case anyone reads this and thinks its correct, its not. R34 does NOT have an OBD2 port, only a consult port. V35 and up have OBD2 port.

so yes it has the consult port. OBD1 isnt really a standard, people just use OBD/OBD1 to often mean 'something which isnt OBD2', so its not good to use OBD/OBD1 in terms of identifying a diagnostics port at all.

the ECU doesnt read boost and oil, so unless the touch has external wiring for that, you wont get that.

make sure you consider the ECUTalk V2 display before spending 3 times as much on a toy.

normally for monitoring people will get a consult device + gauges for the un-monitorable via consult (oil temp and/or pressure, boost, and sometimes wideband o2 and EGT).

Thanks for clarifying mate.

Both the Greddy Infometer and the ARK MFD have adaptors to plug in additional sensors for boost, oil temperature/pressure, water temperature, and wideband o2 and EGT. So that is no problem.

At this stage i think i will go for the ARK MFD as it does not use the diagnostic port, however if the Greddy Touch can still display the optional sensors with non-OBD then i would rather go for that as it has more functions.

I have looked at the ECUTalk V2 Display, but i think for almost a similar price as the ARK MFD, with less functions and, lets be honest, horrible appearance, the ARK MFD or Greddy Touch would be the better option

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isnt the ARK MFD more than double the ecutalk?

guess it depends on what purpose you need it for, and whether you need it just for its functionality or if it has to look the part also, which the ecutalk display is pretty plain.

i would have thought that the 3 sensors not available via consult, you'd want boost and oil pressure as standalone gauges? so then you're really only getting oil temp more than whats available via consult.

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ARK MFD is about $400 and can read boost straight off the bat, doesn't need additional sensors. It is mostly for functionality, but looks does come in to it, i don't want an 80's looking gadget. That and the fact that i find the ARK MFD a hell of a lot easier to read, rather than trying to make out what the ECUTalk is saying.

I will need to get the additional sensors for oil temp/pressure, and water temperature. But i find the price of the ARK MFD + sensors better than the price of all the Defi gauges i would need to monitor all the things the MFD can monitor.

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where have u found it at that price? ark website has the unit at $459 + $79 temp sensor, $179 pressure = $717USD. im sure you can get it cheaper elsewhere etc, but thats quite a lot of dollars.

which readings/screen would you monitor 24/7? (i see theres a 4 gauge or 8 gauge mode, presumably one of those?).

and comparing to cost of defi gauges is going to make anything look cheaper :blush:

i guess one of the benefits of the ARK is that it doesnt take the consult port, so if you wanted to add something off that later you can. anyway looks like you know all your options, good luck.

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ARK MFD is about $400 and can read boost straight off the bat, doesn't need additional sensors. It is mostly for functionality, but looks does come in to it, i don't want an 80's looking gadget. That and the fact that i find the ARK MFD a hell of a lot easier to read, rather than trying to make out what the ECUTalk is saying.

I will need to get the additional sensors for oil temp/pressure, and water temperature. But i find the price of the ARK MFD + sensors better than the price of all the Defi gauges i would need to monitor all the things the MFD can monitor.

I am also looking at getting the GREDDY INTELLIGENT INFOMETER TOUCH, but did not want to open a new post.

Did you end up getting this ?

I have got a r34 GTT 98 and was hoping to get the Greddy Infometer.

From what I have read it should be okay as long as you get the additional harness for Nissan CONSULT ?

I have looked through the forum and this seems like the latest talk about this.

Thanks

P

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Nah didn't end up getting it mate, went with the ARK MFD instead as it wires straight into the ECU so I didn't have to purchase an extra cable. The ARK also comes with a boost sensor, so didn't have to purchase another sensor. In the end worked out about $400-$500 cheaper, and it's really easy to use :whistling:

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Nah didn't end up getting it mate, went with the ARK MFD instead as it wires straight into the ECU so I didn't have to purchase an extra cable. The ARK also comes with a boost sensor, so didn't have to purchase another sensor. In the end worked out about $400-$500 cheaper, and it's really easy to use :whistling:

You need the Infometer touch with a non-OBD (Nissan) connector.

Seems about the same price as the ARK MFD but you don't have to hack into the loom and has no buttons - just touch goodness.

Much better than buying Defi gauges which are even more wallet raping.

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Given the cost you're looking at outlaying, and you still have to find somewhere to mount it, and given you have an R34 - have you considered just retrofitting an R34 GTR MFD?

There are plenty of tutorials/guidelines on how to fit - it will display boost/ignition duty cycle/water temperature/oil temperature/throttle position (and intake/exhaust temp if you fit extra sensors).

You'd probably be looking at $900-1000 for the unit + a few hours to wire it all up. Definitely an option in my opinion.

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