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I think its about time this happened. New drivers need to focus on learning the ropes of the roads and about handling a car in general.

Im not sure pilots who fly crop planes jump into fighter jets....

Hopefully see kids wrapping themselfs around trees!!

I'm glad I learnt in my ford laser for the first few years of driving, cos if I had the R32 straight up... I would have probably been on the front page of the newspaper. That diff did not allow you to change gears around a corner without sending you sideways, wouldnt have handled that so well straight off my Ls.

(the person who bought it just got his licence, a week later he wrote it off, not sure if he was ok, we only got the phone call from the bank cos Finance we forgot about)

Looks like my old R34 will now become hot property....

I think its about time this happened. New drivers need to focus on learning the ropes of the roads and about handling a car in general.

Im not sure pilots who fly crop planes jump into fighter jets....

Hopefully see kids wrapping themselfs around trees!!

Death is cool Beavis

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-D

^^^ I need tp for my Bunghole rapapapapapapapapa .... where I come from we have no bunghole :D

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BUNGHOLIOOOOOOOO! Who are you? Are you trying to threatening me? Cornholiooooooo

-D

I agree with this. You see too many kids dying these days due to the fact that they cant handle the car. If they offered advanced car driving courses like Mark Skaife is pushing for, then I think this will make the roads a safer place. "Making the speed limits slower wont save lives, teaching the kids how to handle and drive the car will" Mark Skaife.

unfortunately the government will never spend any money on providing advanced driving courses (or any driving courses) to anyone for free.

the reality is that a lot of people buy performance cars but don't bother to get the training to learn what their cars can/can't do. if you buy a high performance car, you should do a high performance driving course to learn more about it. fairly simple concept imho, but most people won't pay to do it.

from my observations, even if an advanced car driving course if offered, not many will take the opportunity to do it.

evidence = 9 people at the recent Advanced Driving Course at Mallala two weeks ago :down:

Very true Kim. However I don't think it should only be those in HP cars that would solely benefit from a course like that. There's a LOT of good stuff learned on those days that could possibly save your life or someone elses one day

Very true Kim. However I don't think it should only be those in HP cars that would solely benefit from a course like that. There's a LOT of good stuff learned on those days that could possibly save your life or someone elses one day

I agree with you there Luke, my dad is a bloke who is nearly 70 and could really do with some defensive moves

hell, even a standard exam would catch him out for not checking his blind spot - I still need to do that course myself, then the cams2 - i think everyone who values their life and their ride should do both as a matter of precaution

-D

so many people in here sterotyping other people because of their age and what they drive......

sounds like what im used to out on the road :down:

this better be one part of the governments fantastic road rules being changed to save lives. why cant they make advanced driver training part of getting your licence like what i and many other people have been saying for years?

if the government stops p platers driving with more then one person in the car at a time during certain hours say hello to more drunk drivers. i know when i was young, we had a few mates who had been drinking while there was one sober one taking us all home. try and do the right thing and now the government wants that gone too. you think young people can afford taxi fairs?

im all for young people driving non high performance cars but why have older unexperienced people driving high performance cars. just like scandy said. whats makes it ok for someone one day, not ok to drive a 500hp car to the next, they're legally allowed too.

you can only get experience one way....

so many people in here sterotyping other people because of their age and what they drive......

sounds like what im used to out on the road :ninja:

this better be one part of the governments fantastic road rules being changed to save lives. why cant they make advanced driver training part of getting your licence like what i and many other people have been saying for years?

if the government stops p platers driving with more then one person in the car at a time during certain hours say hello to more drunk drivers. i know when i was young, we had a few mates who had been drinking while there was one sober one taking us all home. try and do the right thing and now the government wants that gone too. you think young people can afford taxi fairs?

im all for young people driving non high performance cars but why have older unexperienced people driving high performance cars. just like scandy said. whats makes it ok for someone one day, not ok to drive a 500hp car to the next, they're legally allowed too.

you can only get experience one way....

cant dispute anything you've written

its one of those things where the people in power are trying to do the right thing but since theyre totally f**king incompetent they fail

if i was road minister, first thing i'd do would be enforce the same driver training that happens in finland - train the hell out of them

better safe than sorry - and we might just have an aussie winning races as a bonus to a reduced road toll (and by-proxy, reduced insurance claims)

-D

Obviously one doesn't need a high powered car to act like a fool and kill themselves and others. If someone wants to drive like a fkn moron they'll do it regardless!

I for one will be incredibly surprised the day I see government funded driver training at at track if they can't even fund repairs to roads even with rising rego costs and $M's they make from cameras.

so many people in here sterotyping other people because of their age and what they drive......

if the government stops p platers driving with more then one person in the car at a time during certain hours say hello to more drunk drivers. i know when i was young, we had a few mates who had been drinking while there was one sober one taking us all home. try and do the right thing and now the government wants that gone too. you think young people can afford taxi fairs?

im all for young people driving non high performance cars but why have older unexperienced people driving high performance cars. just like scandy said. whats makes it ok for someone one day, not ok to drive a 500hp car to the next, they're legally allowed too.

you can only get experience one way....

Kye, some of these kids can't afford $5 - $10 each (group buy) taxi fare??......after spending $100 on alcohol??? Solution = drink less, your liver will thank you in the morning.

The Scandy arguement is flawed.....just like I said to him, it doesn't matter whether the set age is 16 or 45, you'll always have the "day before, day after" scenario to contend with at any age.

Obviously one doesn't need a high powered car to act like a fool and kill themselves and others. If someone wants to drive like a fkn moron they'll do it regardless!

this is true, i once saw an abo drift around a roundabout in a 2.0lt sigma while half his body was out the car, smoking it up for something like 80 odd rotations

it was funny at the time but kids, dont try that at home

-D

The Scandy arguement is flawed.....just like I said to him, it doesn't matter whether the set age is 16 or 45, you'll always have the "day before, day after" scenario to contend with at any age.

that, plus the fact he got his licence revoked before any of this legislation was brought into effect, which kind of says something really..

not having a go, since i lost my licence for 6 months in 2002 for DUI however ya cant blame the new offences, rather u gotta look at what got u there in the first place.

the sad irony is, i probably have had more demerit points than u, but ive spread it out over the last 10 yrs

-D

Edit - and cause u actually get out on track, ur probably technically more capable than I but hey.. try telling that to the gestapo

that, plus the fact he got his licence revoked before any of this legislation was brought into effect, which kind of says something really..

not having a go, since i lost my licence for 6 months in 2002 for DUI however ya cant blame the new offences, rather u gotta look at what got u there in the first place.

the sad irony is, i probably have had more demerit points than u, but ive spread it out over the last 10 yrs

-D

Edit - and cause u actually get out on track, ur probably technically more capable than I but hey.. try telling that to the gestapo

what does it say? (1st sentence)

Re last sentence, Scandy should get brownie points from Transport SA as recognition for the track days, especially if it was a certified driver training course......gotta to count for something over someone who hasn't tracked

what does it say? (1st sentence)

Re last sentence, Scandy should get brownie points from Transport SA as recognition for the track days, especially if it was a certified driver training course......gotta to count for something over someone who hasn't tracked

it says that obviously hes been done for more than a few misdemeanors

im no saint, but i lost my licence on one minor indiscretion - its a tad different to repeated demerit points - never lost a licence that way - matter of fact i only had the 6 months loss of licence because 3 months earlier it was passed thru legislation as being mandatory

does that excuse me? absolutely not

i dont drink and drive anymore, esp not in a gtr

that said, ive taken responsibility for my own f**kups - i hope that kids that do get pinged sit back and think about it

maybe im just being optimistic but there it is

And i totally agree with the brownie point theory - scandy is probably overall a better all driver than me due to his track days, but for some reason this didnt work so well on the road- not being privvy to the details, im not going to assume anything. Maybe dave can tell us

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