R33 Or R34?

[stig mick]

Increased compression, ecu tuning, better breathing intake and exhaust 150kws at the flywheel vs R33 gts which only has 96kws

And just cause the engine size is smaller it doesn't mean it has to be more powerful an gtr R34 has just as much power as a v12 90's Ferrari. If fitted a better exhaust and intake and a boost increase

My 4 cylinder 200sx has 200rwkws with a pod, intercooler, full exhaust and boost increase and my friends r33 with catback and increased boost only has 150rwkws

Edited July 7, 2011 by stig mick

[lincellusion]

well... i guess it comes to my final decision. I am sooo confused. I DONT want to stray away from skyline/ Silvias though, sorry in terms of future mods, when I am off my p's, if I was to turbo an R33 gts or an S15 autech silvia, which would give me better performance? and a STUPID Q I know, but even though its got less cylinders, will it make a nice grunt with a full exhaust done? or sound like the tinny mosquitoes like all other 4cyl p platers sound like?

[stig mick]

It will sound fine with an exhaust, DO NOT turbo a non turbo car it's a waste of money and never works out well

An autech is worth more as a non turbo when your off your P's just sell it and buy a turbo one or a skyline

Power is not everything to ne handling is more important on a street car 150kws at the fly wheel is plenty unless your going to the drags or time attack

[lincellusion]

I guess im not thinking far enough ahead. keep in mind my dream cars ALWAYS been an r34, so it wouldnt hurt to have an autech, get a good few years, when I can afford an r34 (prefferebly gtr R34), buy that and sell the autech and getta nice bonus because it is an autech, good idea, I didnt really think about the future benefits. I guess I do like the look of silvias a bit, it does sort of resemble a holden monaro. and as I said, when I sat in the S15, it was like an rx7, small inside but the perfect size, makes you feel one with the car. never sat in an R33, but am HOPING that its not so small, compact and one with like a silvia now the only issue is that an s15 autech will cost what, 2 or 3 k more then an r33? Anyway, thx for the help, I keep telling myself, I am only young, if a silvia turns out to be the worst thing in the world to ever happen to me, then I got years ahead of me to get something else ahahah.

[stig mick]

Try 15000-18000 you can pick up an R33 gts for less than 10000

Don't be so hell bent on a skyline they are not the be all and end all of cars yes they are great but it will be many many years before r34 gtrs are sub $30000 currently $50000-$70000 yes they look great but most 90's JDM cars look great,

also not bursting your bubble but you haven't even driven a skyline turbo/ twin turbo or NA so what makes you think it's gonna be any better than a Silvia or any other car?

I've owned 2x r32 gtst's, r33 gtst, s13 Silvia K's and s14 and driven an s15 and r34 and im very happy with my s14 and was also very happy with my last r32 I suggest you try as many cars as you can before you make a decision based on others opinions and looks

Edited July 7, 2011 by stig mick

[lincellusion]

Not bursting my bubble at all, keep i mind, I still consider a silvie to be an 'off brand' of the skyline, like a brother and you are completely right. The only Nissan I have driven is my pops pulsar lol. I have no clue what any of them feel like. My plan is to when I am at the level where I can afford any silvia or skyline, to go to a few import shops in concord and pretend like im interested so I can test drive silvias and skylines to see which is best, then just say I will think about it

[stig mick]

Good idea

Silvias and skylines are different cars

One is a light weight sports car the other is a high power grand tourer

If anything the gts-t is a little brother basically made cause not everyone can afford a gtr

[w34ponGT]

are you going yo listen to me about the type R, dc 2 with full exhaust intake and hondata your looking 130kw at the wheels easy 13 second car, non turbo cars are slow just face it, buy what you think looks good and enjoy it YOUR worrying ABOUT to MUCH for NOTHING

[stig mick]

But its front wheel drive yuk!

[w34ponGT]

take a type r with coilovers around a track a track compared to a non turbo skyline and tell me whats yuk, were talking about non turbo skylines that are single spinners. woopy do

[stig mick]

I would take an autech S15 over a Honda any day of the week (except an NSX)

Edited July 7, 2011 by stig mick

[lincellusion]

Ye, in all honesty I appreciate any recomendations, but really wanna rwd, theres just, alot more fun to be had, let it be drift or the occasional smoke screen in a SAFE ENVIRONMENT

[w34ponGT]

buy a vn 1 grand put a minispool 80 bux and cut the springs ul end up wakin a gutter anyway at least pickapart is 30 bux a strut -.-

[045HOW]

i think your prices and your goals are a bit muddled. 16-18k to spend on buying an N/A Syline? no way. easily get 33's lower than 8 and easily get 34's lower than 12. Autech S15's are pretty expensive (iirc 16-20k but the good thing is they keep their value for resale). N/A skylines are slow boats and any performance modifications other than a pod would be down right retarded for a P Plater. if you were to buy an N/A skyline, just make sure its manual and has a sound system and spend the next 2 years learning how to drive. but to me even that is stupid. my opinion is that P Platers shouldnt be focusing on how cool their car is and how it handles. they should be out on the roads every day racking up driving experience so that they can navigate the road with proper skill and confidence. they shouldnt be f**kin around with rwd cars,rippin skids and trying to drift.i drove a 1.6L fwd Impreza for 4 years, clocking up about 180,000ks. i did some dumb shit in that car as it was, but i certainly learned a lot about driving on the roads. instead of worrying about skids,mods,licence suspensions,driving records(for offences other than speeding) and emptying your wallet as a P Plater, just buy a good cheap car and drive it. buy a beautiful turbo car when you are on your opens and have the points to spare for defects and other offences. /Rant.

maybe there is something better your money could go towards,but if you are like me i see nothing better to spend money on than turbo cars .

you should put the money away and save it for a 34 GT-T when you get on your opens. trust me, your first turbo car will probably get written off or something happen to it. so dont save up for your first turbo car to be a 34 GTR, because chances are it may go BYE-BYE. its all trial and error when you start hoppin into cars with power you're not used to.

hope these freezing 6am ramblings have helped.

good luck mate.

[skylinesandman]

man seriously if ya on ya p's and no exp drivin manual or fast cars

i would suggest getting something manual, slow n crap like a lancer ect

because ya only goin to trash it learnin how to drive properly

and power requires skill to many kids/mates have become

statistics

[lincellusion]

Yep i understandin what your all sayin. I will be buyin a cheap. Real. Cheap manual to trash as i said a while back. Thx for the help and the 6am ramblings are always welcime

[lincellusion]

^ not to trash on purpose, just to learn to drive manual properly without ruining any better cars

[Miguelone]

Increased compression, ecu tuning, better breathing intake and exhaust 150kws at the flywheel vs R33 gts which only has 96kws

And just cause the engine size is smaller it doesn't mean it has to be more powerful an gtr R34 has just as much power as a v12 90's Ferrari. If fitted a better exhaust and intake and a boost increase

My 4 cylinder 200sx has 200rwkws with a pod, intercooler, full exhaust and boost increase and my friends r33 with catback and increased boost only has 150rwkws

Where did you get your figures from? RB25DE Factory figures are 140kw and the neo in the 34's is 147kw

NA 'lines aren't fast but they're still far from the terrible car everyone makes them out to be.

Oh you mean the GTS as in the RB20 models, we can't even get them here(Although there are some)

Edited July 7, 2011 by Miguelone

[stig mick]

whoops i read the power figure for the RB25E not DE my bad

[w34ponGT]

ok your alowed to have a decent car on your p's to rack up experience, at the end of day its the person behind the pedal that can be an idiot or not, i lost my lisence for 12 months in a bf xr6 so anyone can do its just how long it takes to get to that speed, na skylines are actually one of the fastest na cars i recon, well mine had full exhaust , intake, borred out plenum, full ecu and other lil bits. mabey thats why hehe.. and sold it for 23 g ohh sheit