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Gah, you don't lose points, you get demerit points. Here's how it all works:

- Earn 12 points in the space of 3 years (as a P plater or full licence driver) and you will get an option notice.

- Earn 5 points in the space of 1 year as a P plater and you get an option notice.

- ALL points regularly take 3 years to expire, UNLESS you get an option notice...in which case, you will receive a clean record (0 points) at the end of the chosen option (1 year good behaviour, or 3 month suspension).

- Points that are earned as a P plater do not "expire" after 1 year, they stay on your licence record and still count towards the 3 year rule, they just no longer count towards the 1 year rule.

I agree with what you're saying but now P Platers have reds for 1 year and green p's for 3 years so how does it all tie in there?

No as in it now 4 years on P's meaning what happens after the first 3 years? Do P Platers still only get to use a maximum of 12 points for the first 3 years and it resets on the fourth year assuming no demerit points had been issued previously?

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