Nismo vs other short shifters

[Greg]

Does anyone know about the quality of Nismo short (solid) shifters? I am also looking at ones made by Mines and C's. Has anyone had experience with these?

[51jay]

I've got C's, It is very good, solid works well and is very easy to fit. As far as I know Nismo make two one of them shortens by only 10% the other I Don't know, quality should not be a problem though

[Sim88]

It lowers the standard through an immense deal.

Merli can also vouch for this, compared to standard it feels like a 2cm throw.

[Greg]

OK i've been doing some research and it looks like there are basically two types of shifters:

- Short Shifters (aka solid, direct)

- Quick Shifters

What's the difference?

From the pics I can see of the two, the short shifters just shorten the stick, while the quick shift kits come with a shortened stick and also a whole lot of other nuts, washers and brackets etc (i'm not very good at technical stuff:D).

If any would care to explain I'd appreciate it. Thanks!

Summary so far: C's is the way to go

[Merli]

C's short shifter is the way to go.

NISMO one is useless...

I've felt the Mines one in FATGTR's R33 GTS-t, and it felt very similar to the C's one.

[51jay]

I got my C's from takakaira.com in Japan delivered to my door took 2 weeks cost $A634 via credit card.

The proper short shift changes the length of the stroke at the bottom of the gearleverwhich actually makes the change faster and also has the effect of shortening the length of the arc your hand moves through when you change gear. Just shortening the top of the lever shortens the arc but doesen't change anything at the bottom.

Currently I'm thinkinf of shortening the top of my C's .............Has anyone else tried this. It should give a really short shift but might make it a bit too stiff.

[Sim88]

I have a M's Shifter on mine

very comfortable and fits perfectly in hand, the level of height is also adjustable!!

ill take some pics tommorow and attach them for you to have a look at Jay.

[Guest | hype^ |]

Originally posted by jay51

    Currently I'm thinkinf of shortening the top of my C's .............Has anyone else tried this. It should give a really short shift but might make it a bit too stiff.

u mean like cut the top or something like that??

[51jay]

| Hype ^ | yes that's the idea would make for a double shoetening of the arc your hand moves through. Was also thinking of fitting a gate in the top of the console instead of the leather boot like in some Ferraries.

[Guest | hype^ |]

kool!!

how ya gunna go about cutting it? just a hack saw ro sumthin?:confused:

yer iv always loved the gate idea..

[hitnrun]

A short shifter is simply that, the distance between the pivot point and the gearknob is shorter.

A quick shifter has the pivot point changed so the throw required to change gears is less as well as the stick being shorter, however it also means it is stiffer, or firmer to change. Most people prefer this and the difference is usually not that great. Imagine a see-saw with the hinge moved to one side. Same principle. Just think, all those physic's lessons are paying off

If you have ever been in an excel with a really short gear stick, it usually means that is has had the top hacked off with a cheap fake momo glue back on top. If you have even driven a car like this you know that it makes changing gear really ****. Only spend money on a quick-shifter kit if you really need it. I mean the skyline shifters aren't too bad in the first place.

The C's shifters use adapters to change the pivot point, another way of getting a shorter shifter is to remove the ball joint from the shifter and have it reattached futher along the stick.

Anyway never complaint about the length of the Nissan shifter until you have driven old school 4wds. Most seem to have about 2.5metres of throw.

[fatz]

if you shorten the stick the leaver doesnt go to hand as easy. you want a long leaver that comes as close to the stearing wheel as posible so you dont have to move your hand to far

pete

[51jay]

Each to his own

[Zer0]

I must admit when I tried out the one in Jay51's car and then went back and tried the standard shifter in my car if felt pretty sloppy and crap. I was ready to rush out and buy a C's kit straight away but that requires money! Oh well...