Camber? wheels and tyres

[NickySantoro]

Just wanted to know how and with what I can make my wheels on angles... I want to angle out my rear wheels on angles for drift. Its a 33 gtst with standard suspension... what is needed to do this. I dont want to make it crazy angled.. just so that you can see there angled. Ive heard something about 'pineapple's'... HELPP!

[Steve]

Never seen wheels angled out??? If you want to set up your suspension for drift, start with a good set of coilovers, with reasonably hard springs.

There are alot of mods you can do to suspension, castor rods, rear cradle hardmount bushes, pineapples, swaybars, camber arms, pillow ball tie rod ends, strut braces, roll cage, even wheels spacers will all make a difference to the handling.

[EnricoPalazzo]

u just scared him steve

[NickySantoro]

lol ive got wheel spacers and 18 by 9.5 on rear.. what do u mean u havent seen wheels angled? im sure everyone has.. they go like / .... i know its a 'simple' example. hehe Yeah i think ill go for some suspension... but what is it that makes the wheels like go on angles? anyone have any idea?

[Duncan]

NickySantoro / is big negative camber, its very bad for tyre life and handling (although 1-2 degress is OK). The easiest way to get it is to chop an inch of your back springs with an angle grinder.

[Steve]

Thats negative camber - angled out gave me the idea you wanted to angle the top of the wheel out.

With negative camber, get some adjustable arms or you can get bushes to achieve the same.

Too much camber and you may start to experience bump steer, which can be a bit hairy, but you wont know exactly how it goes until you dial it in, as different spring/damper rates and ride heights can also effect bump steer.

check out www.whiteline.com.au for alot of good explanations on suspension and alignment terms, they also sell alot of the bushes and kits to help with getting the alignment results you may want.

also, speak to D1 Garage (www.d1garage.com) as they can source alot of suspension parts from Japan at good prices.

Tyre size and type can also make huge differences to the handling, as obviously a good wheel alignment will make. Probably the best place to start would be with coilovers, or shocks and springs - then get a wheel alignment done and go from there.