2010 Ford Fpv Brembo Brakes

[spirom]

HI,

Im not sure if this is where i ask for help, opinoins and questions but here we go.

I have R32 GTR and would like to upgrade my brakes. A mate of mine has a set of 2010 Ford FPV Brembo calipers that hes thinking of selling and i know ill need to make a braket to make the bolt up but will the work?

Any help would be appriciated

[Shotgun!]

any place that does brake stuff should be able to answer that for you and tell you the pros and cons for doing so. prob will fit, but your talking about the 6 piston 1's right? so you'll need atleast 18's, prob even 19's to fit those brakes under your wheels, if i were you i'd check clearance first. keep that in mind

[ichi-go]

Technically yes it will fit with the right adapter however you will need to get the offset of the hat/rotor right as well

[spirom]

Hi

I run 265/30/19 10" wide all round so they will fit but i cant find any info about the displacement for the original or the FPV brakes.

Cheers Guys

[Risking]

The ford brembo calipers will require a 1inch master cylinder and some drastic changes to proportioning if your retaining the original rear calipers.

A cheap option they may apear to be but once you factor in the $6-800 for adaptors, $2-300 for a master cylinder,$1-200 for new front lines, $8-1000 for apropriate rotors (factory ford rotors won't work due to the ofset) $2-300 to correct the bias issue.

It actually works out more economical to buy a kit designed for the nissan

[Legionnaire]

First of all - do you know piston sizes of the calipers? They may be useless for you.

Second - you can always buy them and let them lie on a shelf while you're getting yourself all necessary components, including rear upgrade, a bargain is still a bargain. Not an option if you want a quick solution though.

[Roy]

As per the others. I am guessing about the size of the 6pots, but having measured up the 4 pots their pistons are waaaay bigger then F50s which are borderline too big themselves. So F50s are 44mm and 40mm pistons, and from memory the Fords were 48mm and 44mm. So you would assume that the 6 pots offer the same piston area as Ford woudl not have re-engineered the master cylinders, pedal ratio etc for the same model car but with an updated 6 pot Brembo vs 4 pot Brembo (that is an assumption, but I dont think its too long a bow to draw)

So it makes no sense to use Ford calipers on a Nissan. Nissans have all the brake balance and force you will ever need just with a pad upgrade. What you are trying to do is get more consistancy out of the brakes and larger pistons dont do anything for you in this regard, you need more rotor and cooling, in turn this often means you need similar or smaller pistons depending on what you are doing on your rears.

To give you an idea just how fussy the balance can be when you sway too far from the more proven kits....have a look at this vid below. I had just removed my Brembo F40s and was half way through engineering up my custom 343mm Stoptech 4 pot kit when a skidpan day came up. Not wanting to miss out I threw my std R32 GTR calipers and rotors back on the front.

So this means the fronts were 296mm rotors with Sumitomo calipers which have 40.4mm pistons. The rears were Brembos with 300mm rotors and 40mm pistons. Now these rear brakes normally run with front calipers that have the bigger pistoned calipers up front in 44mm and 38mm pistons. So what I was running with was calipers 3%smaller then usual at the front...the result

Now what you would be doing running the Ford calipers is running about 25% more than usual caliper area. So you can see problems on the horizon

[Roy]

And an old favourite post of mine from something like 2002. If you are thinking about an upgrade its important to understand the following just so you dont have unrealistic expectations of what a brake upgrade is going to achieve other then cost you thousands

Car & Driver did a test on brake upgrades. Test Car was a WRX (US Spec which only uses two piston sliding caliper, not as good as Nissan 4 spot or later Model WRX 4 pots)

So tested kits were, std car, std car with upgraded pads and fluid, Brembo F50 Kit, Brembo Lotus Kit (Similar to as fitted to GTRs, 44/38mm pistons), Stoptech kit and Prodrive Kit (Alcon)

Stopping Distances 70mph - 0 , 3 Stop

Brembo F50;________________ 185 / 183 (Average / Best)

Brembo Lotus; ______________ 200 / 196

Prodrive; __________________ 198 / 194

StopTech;__________________ 187 / 186

Stock; ____________________ 205 / 196

Stck with pads and fluid; ______187 / 184

The above figures are all in feet, one stop difference between pad and fluid upgrade and crappy std sliding caliper brake setup and massive Brembos is 1 ft...lol 30cms. And over 3 stops the average is 2 ft...lol 60cms

So you can see the one stop max of the upgraded pads and fluid is damn good when you consider the $$$ to % difference.

Stopping Distances 100mph - 0 , 25 Stop

Brembo F50; ______________ 299 / 288 (Average / Best)

Brembo Lotus; ______________305 / 294

Prodrive; __________________ 308 / 295

StopTech;__________________ 297 / 290

Stock;_____________________ 340/317

Stck with pads and fluid;______316/299

Not the world of difference you would be led to believe from the "i sailed up the inside under brakes because my massive brakes allow me to brake so much later"

Specs of the kits:

Rotor Weight (pounds) Size in inches (diam / thk)

Brembo F50;.................15.8......................... .13.1 / 1.3

Brembo Lotus;..............12.9.......................... 12.9 / 1.1

Prodrive;......................16.5............... ............13.0 / 1.1

StopTech;...................13.9.................. ........12.9 / 1.1

Stock;.................. ......14.2..........................11.6 / 0.9

Caliper Weight , Piston Size, (mm)

Brembo F50;..........8.6 pounds...........40 / 44, Leading / Trailing

Brembo Lotus;.......6.8.......................36 / 40

Prodrive;...............9.1..................... 34.9 / 41.3

StopTech;.............9.3.....................36 / 40

Stock;.................10.8.................. .43 / 43

...and COST!!!

Brembo F50;.......................US$2,995

Brembo Lotus;.....................US$2,595

Prodrive;.............................US$1,999

StopTech;...........................US$1,695

Stock with pads & fluid;....... US$130