Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

Hi

I have just got fitted up with a power FC and I'm running the base map for now until I get tuned, I'm in perths south and the weather here is getting pretty cold, anyway when I give full noise coming up to redline I get the check eng light flashing, along with the cat temp light on solid and my injector duty goes to 100% and the AFM voltage is getting really close to 5.0v and it feels like I'm hitting a brick wall. I know the eng light is coming on because of the AFM voltage but I'm not sure what the cat temp light is for, I don't have the cat temp sensor fitted anymore.

I'm running 10psi on stock turbo with full exhaust Fmic ect and a k&n filter with stock air box and snorkel.

I know these AFM are a Hotwire type so can the cold air affect the output signal?

I know im not leaning out or anything silly cause I have a wideband gauge running constantly in the car, also my afr on wot is constant 10.1 afr

I have ordered a z32 to overcome this problem and because the car is going to see some more mods in the next few months. Although I didn't think the stock AFM would max out with what's been done to the car so far..

Anyway I have searched through the forums for a while to no avail.

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/405688-afm-maxing-out-cold-weather/
Share on other sites

I have just got fitted up with a power FC and I'm running the base map for now until I get tuned,

I'm in perths south and the weather here is getting pretty cold, anyway when I give full noise coming up to redline I get the check eng light flashing,

Ummm dude... You are running with an un-tuned car.

What you are seeing is the car knocking it's ass off, because it's not tuned. Just because the AFR's are 10:1 doesn't mean it's not detonating.

The base map, is just that. A basis to start from. Simply put you turn the key and then tune the car. You do not go flogging it on the base map... It's a sure fire way to kill your motor. In fact you might have already done irreversable damage...

So you've got two choices really.

1. Stop doing it and drive below 3000rpm and off-boost until it's tuned (sensible person option)

2. Keep doing it and potentially blow the motor, before it's tuned (not so sensible person option).

Hmmm ok, I was told by a tuner in Perth that running a base map of the pfc was safe "just keep watch of your AFR's" what the hell!

Ok then if what your saying is right then I'm parking it up...

Cheers

You shouldn't max the stock AFM with the stock turbo - or injectors for that matter.

So the engine light flashing means there is definately something up.

You can drive it, just don't flog the ass out of it. 3000rpm and light throttle = no worries.

Safe to run as in drive off boost down to the tuner yes not limiter bash it.

Biggest misconception people have is the whole "plug and play" part of aftermarket ECU's - a Base map as stated above is a map loaded with values that are enough to turn the key and drive the car pre boost.

I have come to learn that whenever boost is involved the ammount of parameters that need to be spot on are numerous and making a mistake with them can be catastrophic,

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • GCG is a good company, they're a major distributor for Garrett in Japan as well.
    • Nah, OEM washer bottle and brake fluid reservoirs are fine I don't know what it is with the plastic that Mazda used, some plastics, like the washer bottle and brake fluid res are fine, and still look new after 20 years use, where as the coolant expansion tank, and PS reservoir, that I replaced with new OEM items when I first got the car, turned yellow and started getting brittle a few years later If the dirty yellow stained plastics didn't trigger me there wouldn't be an issue, but they did, much like the battery bracket....... Meh As for going back to work full time to support car stuff, nope, why, because I own a Mazda NC MX5, not a Nissan R series Skyline 🤣
    • I've never heard of CJ-motor, so can't advise you on them. I'd just go straight to GCG for a GCG highflow though. Seems no point to use a middleman. I'm somewhat surprised that the price on the CJ site is lower than the GCG retail price. Even though CJ would get a discount of some sort, you would hardly expect them to give up so much margin. Maybe the price is out of date? Having said that "I'd go to GCG"...when I did my highflow, I went to Hypergear. I did this https://hypergearturbos.com/product/rb25dethighflow/#tab-dyno-results with the R34 OP6 450HP profile. With the BB centre (extra $400) and intially with the standard boost actuator, but I eventually got him to send me the high pressure one when I got to the point of being able to actually use it. Ends up costing the same sort of money as the GCG highflow, but this is, of course, the turbo that I KNOW has a shorter length core and so moves the comp cover rearwards. The GCG apparently doesn't do that. My mechanic also swears by the GCG highflow, given that we have another turbo rebuilder who does something essentialy the same as theirs, using Garrett wheels. He says it stands up at really low revs and makes good power. I haven't pushed my HG highflow past ~240-250rwkW yet (should have a little more in it, but unclear how much) and it does have a fairly gentle boost ramp. OK, it's much better now that I have gotten my boost controller tuned up on it.  A lot of my earlier unhappiness was because I couldn't keep the wastegate flap as closed as it needed to be (including some mechanical issues). I'd still prefer it to boost up nearly as quickly as the stocker, and it certainly a bit slower than that. So maybe the GCG one is worth the first look (for you).
    • Ok thanks 🙂 I will higly consider this. Any "known" company for a good reviews and experience to send that off? Is that CJ-motor good one? Or go straight to GCG site? I need to use VPN to even find some of those "shops" let alone access them 🙂 
    • You can literally put in as much WMI as it takes to quench the combustion totally (and then back it off a little, obviously), and it will keep making more and more power. The power comes from the cooling effect of the water (and the meth) and the extra fuel (the meth, which also has massive octane). It is effectively exactly like running E85. One might be slightly better than the other, but they are damn close. But with either you can lean on the boost or the timing (or both) waaaay more than with just petrol and the results are similar. Here's the first thing I googled for an anecdotal bit of evidence. Can't access the attachment without being a gold member, but it is there for the getting if able to, or searched up elsewise perhaps. https://www.hpacademy.com/forum/general-tuning-discussion/show/wmi-vs-e85/
×
×
  • Create New...