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Agreed^

The major difference that many neglect to acknowledge; being that the GTR was always a race car built for the road...where Group A were mass produced cars being touted as race cars. Probably closer these days in equivalency to IP or the utes lol. Not making excuses for the GTR, something had to be superior in a broadly homologated series.

V8 supercars has steered so far away from the Group A roots that you can't really call it a "Group A designed to exclude everything but Holden and Ford" series anymore. It truly is it's own thing now...well, NASCAR with left and right corners :)

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Agreed^

The major difference that many neglect to acknowledge; being that the GTR was always a race car built for the road...where Group A were mass produced cars being touted as race cars. Probably closer these days in equivalency to IP or the utes lol. Not making excuses for the GTR, something had to be superior in a broadly homologated series.

V8 supercars has steered so far away from the Group A roots that you can't really call it a "Group A designed to exclude everything but Holden and Ford" series anymore. It truly is it's own thing now...well, NASCAR with left and right corners :)

yep, nissan designed it from the ground up to work around the group A rules as best as possible. plus the fact that it cost about twice as much to buy as the top model commodore at the time

V8 supercars was NEVER based on Group A

The supertaxis were created at the same time that all of europe, and even japan, had dropped the Group A specs (mostly due to the bigest race series- the DTM, going to an engine sized based category) as it allowed the creation of more of a "silloutte" style of race car.

Its interesting to note, that when the supertaxis first started, there was actually a Group B subcategory for cars under 2000cc that complied with the FIA Class II Touring cars. This never actually took off due to the "sister" series of the supertourers offering pretty much the same regs, but in a more competitive environment.

In the year of its inception (1993) they even allowed entrants from cars that complied with Group 3A 1992 touring car specs, but only for naturally aspirated RWD platforms - but this was only to allow people to get one mnore year out of their homoglated VN Group A's. After the start of the 94 season there was no longer any link between group A (of any class) and the supertaxis.

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