Sleeping

[Birds]

I think we recognise you as the resident expert on all things pharmaceutical Terry, I wouldn't find myself disagreeing with your experience

[L33SH]

what do you do for a living, Terry?

[GTR-N1]

Psychopharmacology, Nuttitional Psych, Hypnotherapy, Counselling

I sort of love the detective work of tracking genetics, ancestry, biochemistry and microbiology most of all.

For instance us Asians tend to lack Lactase (thus lactose intolerant), Aldehyde Dehydrogenase (we get drunk quicker), don't process Vit A as well as Caucasians and we're often born with big teeth on small mandibles (common to have wisdom teeth extractions)...

[Birds]

So you carry your bottle of Lacteze to dinner?

[L33SH]

interesting

I'd love to find something to help me with my sleeping issues, but I don't want to take any medication so I probably can't

[GTR-N1]

So you carry your bottle of Lacteze to dinner?

Funny how I sometimes recommend it but I don't have any myself.

Birds I don't have dairy very often away from home, and I'm usually too full to order a cheese platter.

Yoghurts can get me going sometimes.

I think Lactaze or Tilactase has short dating for those considering it.

[GTR-N1]

interesting

I'd love to find something to help me with my sleeping issues, but I don't want to take any medication so I probably can't

I don't like taking prescribed drugs myself unless absolutely necessary - but supplements are a different matter (when justified).

[L33SH]

I don't like taking prescribed drugs myself unless absolutely necessary - but supplements are a different matter (when justified).

yes, I take supplements daily but not to help me with sleeping though

[GTR-N1]

I may have mentioned before - maybe not - that different supplements may be more useful than others depending on the type...

Insomnia Type I - where one can't get off to sleep...

Insomnia Type II - where one wakes up intermittently

Insomnia Type III - where one wakes up too early and can't go off again

Rider:- Rotating shift work, pregnancy, cardiac issues (like fibrillations and mitral valve weakness) can upset all of the above

[L33SH]

I have insomnia type 2 most nights and type 1 about once or twice a week, when something upsetting has happened during the day or I'm anxious. I usually get between 3-5 hours a sleep per night for about the past 7 years. I'm pretty used to working full time, studying part time and going to the gym 6 days a week on little sleep now; however I think lack of sleep affects me emotionally.

[rev210]

A long time ago, I had insomnia of a similar kind for over 5 yrs Leesh. I used medication to 'reset' the sleep pattern so to speak over a few months. I went days without sleep sometimes. Eventually it caused me some physical health issues.

Also, you fall into a pattern and the 'lack of sleep' thoughts further add to your stress ,causing more lack of sleep.

The medication I used basically 'puched my lights out' at a time when I wanted to go to sleep. It had some side effects that I would say are nothing compared to long term lack of sleep and go away the moment you stop taking them.

Go ask your doctor to help you out there it's worth it.

[L33SH]

I have a fear of medication

[rev210]

If you are fearful of medication you can try 'supliments' , if you haven't already, to see if there is improvement.

Phenibrut is an example. Primaforce do it in powder form.

Edited June 23, 2013 by rev210

[L33SH]

Ah okay cool, I use primaforce supplements so will have a look.

Cheers.

[rev210]

Cool. ultimately addressing the source of the anxiety is the long term solution.

[XGTRX]

If you want a otc supplement try Dorian Yates GH Blast. It has GABA, ZMA, arginine glutamine and macuna purians in it very good testosterone and GH support and assists sleep

[L33SH]

Cool. ultimately addressing the source of the anxiety is the long term solution.

Difficult when it's out of my control.

[L33SH]

If you want a otc supplement try Dorian Yates GH Blast. It has GABA, ZMA, arginine glutamine and macuna purians in it very good testosterone and GH support and assists sleep

I have a hormone imbalance and my body produces excess testosterone, so is this supplement appropriate for me?

[XGTRX]

From what I understand all the claimed test booster do not boost testosterone they support the natural balance between test and estrogen. There is not artificial boosting at all. That ingredient macuna puriens helps with the balance. And if your test is high, lucky you because most of the 'normal range' levels sited by western medicine are too low. It has been proven that test from ancient non-westernized humans are close to double the level of westernized men. They also have non existent rates of heart disease, diabetes, obesity and hormonal issues we have. So I would not worry really because men with so called normal range test are less likely to create waves and a lot easier to control.... exactly what the government want.

Edited June 23, 2013 by XGTRX

[Trozzle]

I thought you had LOW test, Leesh? *confused*