damn montoya

[siksII]

who watched the f1 tonight, im a ferrari follower, and i reckon if damn montoya had paid more attention in the tunnel michael wouldnt have been wiped out. so DAMNITT! damn montoya!

and barri is just stupid, always making excuses for being crap eh!

[Craved]

yeah i saw it, couldn't believe it a all! didn't even look like he tried to stop! who knows what was going through his head! especially under safety car

[siksII]

i rekon eh! imagine the view from the safety cars mirrors...the driver must have been like WTF are they doing!

anyway im off to sleep now, got class 2morrow morning!

[Duncan]

well....I'm not sure, I reckon it must have been a full moon or something last night.

Obviously Montoya had a shocker, you aren't meant to crash under safety car

But why was MS warming his brakes in a blind tunnel....he could have waited 100m where people could see him.....you can see from the video he was stopping so hard that he even locked up the front left!

But the one that had real brain fade was Alonso...why wouldn't he have waited and overtaken in the chicane just down the road.

And for that matter what the hell was fisi doing going full speed thru a huge cloud of smoke under yellow flags.

I reckon there'll be some pretty pissed of team bosses around now.

[Roy]

Yeh , im with Duncan. Im not convinced MS was so innocent...can anyone say brake test

[Silver-Arrowz]

Both were just as good as each other. Fair enough he was warming his brakes but to the point where he's locked the wheel? I think that's a little too excessive.

Great to see Trulli get his first win though.

[benm]

Fair enough he was warming his brakes but to the point where he's locked the wheel? I think that's a little too excessive.

MS was hardly on the racing line, their was an accident only 1-2 laps prior which was caused by the lack of grip off the racing line, it would have been quite easy for MS to lock his front left tyre just by being off-line.

[siksII]

I dont think MS hit the brakes very hard, its just that the brakes were cold, so they were grabby, plus after the race they mentioned that the tunnel is quite slippery, when going slow(no downforce)

so a combination of slippery surface and cold brakes would have caused the lockup, lockups are not uncommon, and come on, montoya must not have been paying attention!

[Duncan]

talk about 0wnage tho...you aren't meant to crash ur million dollar cars when driving behind a pace car

[siksII]

yeah thats for sure.. OWNED while behind a safety car, unbelievable!!~!!!

at least trulli won though, imean i support MS and ferrari, but someone else has to win sometime, and i think trulli is a deserving winner...

[EnricoPalazzo]

At such lower speeds, there is no downforce on the cars. Also the tunnel is very slippery. It wouldnt of taken much to lock the wheel up. It came down to Montoya being way too close to Schumi, Trulli said he was too close to him and thought there could of been an accident, then there was. I think it would of been hard for Schui to still win, however the race was boring after he was out.

All i can say, is imagine if MS hit JPM. Im sure that the media, JPM and everyone else would have a totally different prespective on the incident. I dont rate JPM at all, i think he is a wild man, and is not a good driver. I mean the guy doesnt know how to overtake, he just trys and barge his way through, and 1/10 moves he makes will stick, then other 9 will end in some sort of accident. He has to re-asses himself and realise he is not the best. He believes he is the best driver on the circuit, typical attiitude coming from someone who raced in Indy.

In regards to Alonso and RS incident, according to alonso, RS slowed down in the tunnel, forcing alonso to overtake or lose even more time. He did then RS accelerated again forcing Alonso to stay wide in the dirty part of the track where he understeered into the barrier.

[Bax]

I thought it was the best race yet. Don't get me wrong I'm a fan of Ferrari, just no longer MS, and no not because of last night or anything. Just think he's a little bitch.

Anyway, I think what happened last night was fine, come on though, the guy never ever makes a mistake, and then when the brakes grab there has to be an excuse because he wouldn't do such a thing. I just don't see if he's so good outside the tunnel, why's he try warming his brakes when he would know theres no downforce and its a slippery part of the track, at slow speeds off the racing line. Montoya was close, to avoiding it, he sat against the wall.

Don't you think its strange that he didn't back off with the brakes and roll on again? I mean half the drivers here, if they had a lockup and couldn't steer, would back off and slide the brakes on smoothly again.

~ But yes, not slowing down into smoke and yellow flags, haha he deserved it. I think it was Coulthard that was on the end of that? Unlucky.

Webber out again, suprise suprise.

But yeah I liked it. Somebody else won for a change.

[EnricoPalazzo]

True, however it appers that montoya makes no attempt at stopping, but only to go by his side.

[benm]

How can you tell?

Montoya got squashed up against the wall disappearing around a corner on a F1 car that has no brake lights? How can you tell he wasn't braking ?

[Duncan]

Actually while those guys were both geese last night, I'm amazed more accidents don't happen behind safety car and on warm up laps.

Rules are quite clear that you cannot "swerve excessively" or do "practice starts" while behind a safety car. you also have to maitain a gap of no more than 3 car lengths. These rules are broken all the time, in fact last night on the warm up lap there were cars doing practice starts on the grid while marshals stood next to them. Not good for safety.

And yes, I am bitter coz I got pinged for it once, luckily just a warning afterwards not a black flag during the race

[EnricoPalazzo]

those marshals wer crazy last nite. On the road waving yellows and some of the drivers werent slowing down. I must say last nite did so some real worrying signs about the so called "best" drivers in the world when they dont even follow all the basic rules as Duncan pointed out. Also drivers making fundamental mistakes aswell.... Hmmm

[meshmesh]

those marshals wer crazy last nite. On the road waving yellows and some of the drivers werent slowing down. I must say last nite did so some real worrying signs about the so called "best" drivers in the world when they dont even follow all the basic rules as Duncan pointed out. Also drivers making fundamental mistakes aswell.... Hmmm

I know where your coming from! Exactly the same thing happened at our Victorian SAU Go Karting night in Victoria the other week. Very dissapointing... I think some heads should roll

[siksII]

the marshals last night had a deathwish for sure..

and im with duncan in saying that ms and montoya were both a bit dumb, but i think the blame still really lies with montoya, he was behind, and he is meant to be looking in front of him since he was going forward at that time in the race!

[EnricoPalazzo]

exactly, u cant take out the leader of the race and not be penalised. Schumi was stupid to brake there but jpm was way to close.

[fatz]

i thought it was gold if i dorve my skyline in the race i could have come home withpoints there were that many people out of the race

loved it

there living my life!!!!!!!!!!!