Disappointed

[Reese69]

well

to start off with i have taken the dump pipe turbo and manifold off to replace waste gate,

have since refitted everything, whilst doing up the manifold nuts two slipped... tightened up again thought i had this right now, only to start the car with a massive leak.. i freaked hadn't heard anything like that before, my mate came over and confirmed massive leak somewhere could smell the exhaust,,

so stripped it again - once i got to the manifold alot of the bolts where loose (finger tight) i thought i done then up.

now this is the disappointing part i went to my tuners work shop and asked how much to replace studs/thread then re fit manifold and turbo and dump pipe, and confirmed if this would actually cause a leak, just so loud was had to process.. as mention i aint a mechanic

i was quoted approx $2000 approx 8 hours works..

lucky my tuner is very good other wise i wouldnt go back .

i am not a mechanic i just have a few tools and slowly pulled my set up out and now refitting which i can re fit in 2 hours so you cant tell me the threading and new bolts will take 4 hours?

i instantly called a mobile thread guy - will be doing the lot including new studs 150 - 200.. then i will put it back together my self.

i feel better i have now vented..

[Shuyin]

That sucks to hear. Good to know that you got it all sorted.

[34GeeTeeTee]

It is possible your workshop did not want to do it?

[Trozzle]

It is possible your workshop did not want to do it?

I'd say this is quite likely lol

[Reese69]

first thought is i agree but car is being prepared for tune there so you would think they would want the work make sure its all ok and right for dyno - thats what i said to em - should have talked to the tuner - he is always helpfull ect

[Shuyin]

I've found that tunners are happy to deal with eletrical and software issues, hate dealing with mechanical problems...

[34GeeTeeTee]

I've found that tunners are happy to deal with eletrical and software issues, hate dealing with mechanical problems...

It all depends on what their shop is setup to do and what their main focus is, the shop i use has a dedicated mechanical side and a dedicated tuning side...

[D.I.Y. Mik]

It seems, when you know whats going on, and you know what you want, workshops dont want to do it.

Ive been sent away many times when i have asked for a specific thing to be done.

When i go and get a tune ( one day ) im going to keep my mouth shut, and hope they do a good job.

Anyway your better of doing it yourself as some workshops do crappy work, or they can make honest mistakes too.

Peace of mind comes from seeing it done right. If you DIY you can triple check its right.

[Reese69]

agree ^ but my first thing was i have had enough of putting it all togeather and pulling it apart - i aint a mechanic so i am battling lol

i thought they coul do the studs then 2 hours max to bolt it all up least i would also have peace of mine its dont right - after the last two goes i have dout in my ability -

but i am giving it one good final go and will see i trueily hope that this was the leak or i will be gutted lol

[D.I.Y. Mik]

You aint a mechanic, nor am i, but your getting faster and better with the practice.

Dont give up hope, you can do heaps with not much, cos your human and we have big smart brains.

When i was a youngster i stripped ans rebuilt a whole car on a gravel driveway, paint job too, with very basic tools. its easy.

I bet you got it this time too. If not, i bet you know whats wrong too.

[Humpty Dumpty]

Guys,

I own a workshop in Canberra and can see where you are coming from

To give you an idea what happens with my shop, I normally charge $100/hr labour, in that you get my knowledge that i have learnt over the years of working on import cars, but in saying that if someone comes in asking for advise i am happy to give that, but when people try and tell me how to do something essentially meaning that the job is done by them just using my hand i either turn them around and send them packing or can and have charged them more.

In saying that I am not going to side with either the workshop in question or the customer as it is not beneficial for myself or you.

There can be any reason for them to charge that but it is always up to you to accept that and if you think that's unacceptable then you can refuse it.

If some one refused my quotes i don't take offence to that to me that means they would not want to use my hands and knowledge or experience.

Having peace of mind with work being carried out by a mechanic will always favor the consumer especially with fair trading. If you dont think the work is up to standard either talking to them about it or taking it to Fair Trading will fix that issue.

But overall mechanics do make mistakes or have fked up here and there but for those that what to do the work themselves sure thing good luck on your ventures i hope it all goes well.

[D.I.Y. Mik]

Totally agree.

you just gotta pick the right one to see.

[Reese69]

well after talking to my tuner looks like he stuffed the quote up -

anyway i got the thread guy to help out (very good bloke)

100 bucks later ready to re fit - then the manifold hardly went on took us ages - never had this issue - anyway it has warped some how - which is the reason why another bolt threaded its self (the warped end would not tighten up would just - sorry it would slowly then to go anyfurther we need more torque then of course failed)

so manifold is off... going to find someone to shim it or what ever plus another new stud.. then try again.......

[Reese69]

looking at about $300 buck they are gonna try heat and re bend the manifold then cut off the rest to fix - so another set back - cant win really

[Sinista32]

Have you considerd a good 2nd hand manifold ?

Just thinking of a Plan B (worth a search in FS or a WTB post) before outlaying more cash on a potentially not good Plan A

GTS or GTS-T 33?

Edit: Quick www search - 2nd hand $115. new $400 in Aus on Ebay.

[Reese69]

good point i been looming over the weekend and i was gonna be a good option but nothing i could see was the same or close as mine was a good solid custom one - so if i got a different one - i would have the issue of modifying the dump pipe and moving the waste gate and re plumbing back in blah blah -

the engine guys said i would have more issue if i brought a cheap one - plus the guys said it was a good manifold and worth keeping - hopefully when they heat it they can get most of it out so that will drop the price.

but i %100 agree and have looked into it -

[Sinista32]

Sweet. Didn't realise it was a quality one that's modified .

[Reese69]

yeah has put me in a pickle lol as most are i am tight on cash so with rego and tune ment to be round the corner these little set backs are frustrating -

[Reese69]

well car is all back togeather all is well - only thing i am keeping an eye is the copper gasket spray we put in is a little smokey and it is coming from turbo to manifold joint - i am sure it will go away but you never like the look of it. put the same stuff on the mainifold where it joins the block and there is no smoke there maybe seemed to drive perfectly fine maybe it is just the excess burning up

[Trozzle]

Good chance you just got a little bit of oil somewhere it shouldn't be during the process of removing and refitting the turbo if it's an actual leak in the gasket, you'll know about it once you start boosting the car again coz it'll squeal like a bitch on boost