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Guilt-toy... two words for making xbox run a skyline... HKS Camp... lol at around $200 secondhand its a lot cheaper than making an XBox dsplay your ECU readouts. And it stores data from the last 20 trips in flash memory too which can be downloaded to you PC via a serial interface.

don't ask me how or where to get it as I won't help you.

Sorry, I thought this clearly spelt out how much your attitude regarding assisting other SAU members. Obviously I can't read for shit, and mis-interpret engrish.

If that's what I get for tryin to help you guys out then I'll just keep shit to myself next time.

Help? I thought you just said you won't help... Mental note, I gotta lay off the crack..

Does anyone know where to get the Power FC laptop software from??

I would make tuning a heap easier, but I cant seem to find it!!

I hope this answers your question:

http://www.autech.net.au/infotech_-_faq.php

Specifically:

You will require software and patch leads to create a .DAT or .LOG file from your vehicles ECU. The software you require is dependant on the brand of computer you are running. The FC series of replacement computer from Apexi (ie: PowerFC) require the program FC-Datalogit, available from FC-Datalogit. Autronic requires the factory supplied software for the model of Autronic computer you are running. Currently no stock ECU support any form of .DAT or .LOG file retrieval. For specific enquiries about software to suit your computer, contact Autotech)

http://www.fc-datalogit.co.nz/http://http://www.autech.net.au/' target='_blank'>

Good luck getting a HKS CAMP to run your Skyline... You need a PowerFC for that :D

difference between runnung a car and displaying ECU readouts ;) As advanced as an XBox is, i doubt it'd be as effective as a deidicated ARM processor like in the ECU's (I think). The Xbox might be a bit too latent to do the functions of an ECU and still function as a media centre. (seriously doubt the bus on the xbox can handle the car's system and maintain a graphical output at the same time.

Doughboy, maybe my first quote should have read "don't PM me asking how or where to get it", does that make you feel better now? I really don't like playin games with the moral police, so drop the matter, please?

don't you still need to put in some decent time on the dyno to tune it properly through the rev band? I wonder how many places there are that you can go to and say, I need to use your dyno but I don't want a tune, and they'll give you a discounted dyno rate.

Still trying to get him to make a program for an XBOX or PC that can run my skyline...

Funky... I don't write the questions. ;) I just answer them how I see them.

Dunno where you came up with this displaying data mumbo jumbo :D

don't you still need to put in some decent time on the dyno to tune it properly through the rev band? I wonder how many places there are that you can go to and say, I need to use your dyno but I don't want a tune, and they'll give you a discounted dyno rate.

Road tuning is better then dyno tuning

Funky... I don't write the questions. ;) I just answer them how I see them.

Dunno where you came up with this displaying data mumbo jumbo :D

hehe goji, i assumed he meant use it to display the ecu readouts as replacing an ECU with an XBox is well... pretty radical.

Enrico, that's true, you'd need to find a nice piece of "private" road or shell out for track time though innit?

Doughboy, maybe my first quote should have read "don't PM me asking how or where to get it", does that make you feel better now? I really don't like playin games with the moral police, so drop the matter, please?

I don't have a problem with you having software and not wanting to distribute it. I really have no right to a vocal opinion on what anyone does. There's no need to mention it like - as Gojira said - unless you are chasing down attention... now you've got me to post 3 times directed at you, satisified with the reaction? ;)

Going waaaay off topic...

But does anyone make dynos that rather than linearly "ramping" up, change their load realistically to compensate for drag or even to simulate track maps. Or is that still F1 territory?

you mean like a dyno in a wind tunnel? how do you simulate different frictional surfaces on your tyres though?

Doughboy, its cool, I'm not here for attention, and I'm sorry if it came across like that.

Anyways, back on topic :whip:

No, not like a dyno in a wind tunnel... The load at the rollers would be increased to simulate the extra effort required to push the car through the air. You can calculate the drag of the car for a given speed and add that load to that.

I guess you could simulate light wheelspin by decreasing the load, extra grip by increasing it. I know enough about it to know if that would

I mean like if you are going up Mountain Straight (against gravity) you will have much more load than if you are going down Conrod straight. If you set the dyno to change the load based on what would be happening at that point on the track you could tune the car to run properly at that load/rpm.

If you set up a map of the whole track you could simulate a whole lap (braking would obviously be a problem, but it is not really relevant to tuning the engine)

goji, think you just ventured into skylinegeoff territory... he was talkin to e about a similar sort of thing the other day, not exactly for tuning purposes, but more for datalogging.

I mean like if you are going up Mountain Straight (against gravity) you will have much more load than if you are going down Conrod straight. If you set the dyno to change the load based on what would be happening at that point on the track you could tune the car to run properly at that load/rpm.

If you set up a map of the whole track you could simulate a whole lap (braking would obviously be a problem, but it is not really relevant to tuning the engine)

Hi Gojira I have tuned a car on Mt Panorama in real time with a F&W lambda sensor using the self tune functionality of a Motec. From that personal experience I can tell you that there is absolutely no difference in load points on the fuel or igntion maps between 200 kph going up Mt Straight and 200 kph going down Conrod. The only reason we did on track tuning was to allow for altitude and ambient temperature differences, a 24 Hour Race needs that sort of tuning accuracy .

So all you need is an atmospheric simulating dyno room. ;)

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