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I think I converted my Dad and my younger brother when I got mine. They were trying to convince me to get a HSV or something, when I turned up with the 33 I got the funny looks and "it's nice, but it's not a real car". They lined up against me in a trimatic 253 HX Premier (which sounded nice but its ¼ mile times could have been measured with a sundial), I gave it a bit, just enough for the turbo to start spooling and to keep me *just* in front of them, short shifting nice and early. I waited until we got to about 60, then pinned it in second and left them standing. Hahahaha the look on their faces was priceless :mad: These days their opinions on cars are much more varied, with my brother now building a VH SLE running a 1uzfe and a couple of turbos. Should be a weapon once it's done.

But yeah, I had some bloke at the BWCP lean out of a passenger window and say "if it had another four cylinders you might be worthy of a race". I replied "it's a six, f*ckwit", and he just said "oh well, it's still a heap of shit". To that gem I replied "not everyone can afford a f*cked up, rusty old piece of crap like yours". They didn't like that, so they did a burnout to prove their manhood, oblivious to the marked police car two cars behind them. Oh how we laughed.

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considering the HSV VX GTS is only a tad slower than the R34 GTR, they aint all that bad. the HSV is cheaper (well was), a family car, only rwd, heavier and doesnt look too bad. but it does chew fuel...

commo's n skylines are everywhere...so you cont compare that, but some bogans have to make smart-ass comments then be blown away...when will they learn

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It comes down to turbo's are a more fun.

The torque transition is what makes it fun.

Nothing then there's everything, this snaps the back wheels in to a spin.

Then there's theu torque wave when pulling out of corners with light throttle.

I've owned V8's in the past and the power delivery of the turbo is much much more entertaining. Also why it makes it so much more dangerous in the wet. :(

I hate driving NA's now. :mad:

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It comes down to turbo's are a more fun.

 

The torque transition is what makes it fun.

Nothing then there's everything, this snaps the back wheels in to a spin.

 

Then there's theu torque wave when pulling out of corners with light throttle.

 

I've owned V8's in the past and the power delivery of the turbo is much much more entertaining. Also why it makes it so much more dangerous in the wet. :(

 

I hate driving NA's now. :mad:

Yeah and i think the V8 rumble doesnt beat the sound of the blow off valve, it sounds alot better and you can't beat the feeling of the suction in your seat when you give it a bit, so they're heaps of fun compared to V8's

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I like the sound of the BOV when its leaking on part throttle and the suck whoosh sound of the turbo but one thing I don't like.

Is the hard PSHHHHT sound when driving a little hard between gears.

Gets a little annoying. I much prefer the sound of a nice V8 (LS1's don't sound nice). The New BA Ford V8's sound damn nice.

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I *love* the sound of a tough V8! Especially blown, and *especially* with a couple of massive turbos! If money was no object, a TTV8 would right up there on my list of things to get.

But yeah, chatting to a guy at the Brisbane Motor Show who was one of the Ford engineers on the XR6T design team, he said something about turbo lag, I said to him "I quite like it, without that, there's no rush of torque is there?". Got him thinking anyway. So a win :D

Even these days I enjoy it, I take off easy and hold about half throttle in first, then at around 3-3.5k the turbo spins up to 7psi, the tyres scrabble for grip and we're away :) And hills are good too, as the engine loads up the turbo spools and it holds its speed with little or no extra throttle. Magic.

One thing I've noticed in mainstream car mags though is that they rag on a car if it has any noticeable turbo lag whatsoever, like it's a bad thing. No, what they're experiencing is what the engine is like unassisted, then the rush as the turbo comes on song. A turbo engine is a different beast to a NA motor, criticising it for feeling different despite being superior in most ways seems a little short-sighted to me. Maybe the writers that complain about lag don't have the skill to adjust their driving to suit the car?

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And hills are good too, as the engine loads up the turbo spools and it holds its speed with little or no extra throttle. Magic.

My god, finally someone else who finds that fascinating!

I often drive the car and hold throttle and go "look erin, look! the engine rpm stays the same, the throttle is the same, but watch the boost! *boost comes up to a positive pressure*"

She never seems to get quite so excited as I do :D

... that comment applies to a lot of things actually. I get entertained by stupid things. Like the design of quilts (they do squares so the feathers dont all go to one end... GENIUS!)

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The trouble with that theory is that the 34 was always meant to be a good car with a decent build quality. The HSV VX GTS is just a cheap sales rep car with some minor trimmings and a massive sales tag :D

And a V8... some pretty wheels, a body kit! DONT FORGET THAT!!!

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Some V8s sound fantastic.... Others, sound like a fat man farting on a leather couch in a concert hall.

I wonder what mine sounds like(hopefully not an obese rectum)....I've never heard it from outside the car, cause NOBODY drives my Skyline

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