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my mate just bought a 96 gts (rb25de), i told him he's an idiot coz cud have gotten a gtst for an extra grand but he says he wants a full house gtr engine lol, so what are the specs of this engine? i know it makes around 130 - 147 kw

anyone know the stock 60ft and 1/4 mile times??

He shud race my gtst makes around 210rwkw which is ok considering havent spent more than 5 grand on the car.

So yeah how does it compare in the 60ft and 1/4 mile times? Anyone have some actual figures?

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ok mate, firstly a gtst makes about 184KW stock :P

stats on the RB25DE:

RB25DE  

Bore & Stroke  

Capacity  

Power  

Compression  

Twin cam  

86 X 71.7  

2498  

190ps @5600  

23.5kg's @4800  

10 to 1  

   

The RB25DE is the middlebrother of the nissan RB series Its a Twin cam 2.5 liter.  

This engine is very torquey and is great if you don't require turbo performance.  

It features in the R23 R33 R34 series of Skylines both 4 door and 2 door and came in manual or automatic.  

also is came in the R33 & R34 gts-4 so that the gtr had no competion.  

don't quote me on 1/4 mile times, but I think it's about a second slower over the distance than a gtsts (both stock)

The RB25DE has some go - nice form a running start about 50k's and dropping back a gear...but it's never going to beat a 'worked' gtst - without spending money on it....allot of money :P

Some easy shit he can do:

Work on intake - high flow filter/POD filter

2.5" Exhaust (cat back or full system - just no larger then 2.5")

Extracters (check link in my sig for some cheap!)

NOS (he can get a nice wet kit for <900 bucks and run a 50HP shot)

Simply stuff ^^^

Then ofcourse he could spend 3500 bucks, buy a frontcut 33 and do a conversion - but if it's his first car - the relative savings on fuel/services/insurance/running costs will be great - they look nice and go ok - i'v beaten every homo VL driver whom tries to go 'fully sick' on the freeway - lol - also the older silvia's/180's have no chance....

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your mate is not an idiot for buying an NA, and I would like to think that he knows what

he is doing.

Everyone always says forced induction is the way to go, of course for an extra grand or two

you definately get bang for buck... so why not.

I paid as much for my GTS as the cost of a GTST, for a COMPLETELY stock, clean, first owner,

etc car.

It comes down to your needs, and driving lifestyle. If your not racing, then why do you need

turbo? For a street driven car, for daily use - I find NA is the go.

Your mate might have his own reasons for buying an NA. Whether it be insurance, or

fuel consumption, whatever...

That said... gatty has pretty much summed up what can be done to NA engines.

I think the factory quoted figure is 147kw@4400RPM, I have recently put my car

on the dyno for a base figure, stock except for pod filter... I managed 108rwkw

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Stock times are a bit hard to answer as alot depends on the driver and the strip in question specially when it comes to 60ft times. There are so many variables that come into play, I've seen a stock auto sedan 96 GTS25 do 16.8 and a stock 94 GTS25 coupe do 15.8 so if you say somewhere in the middle you should be about right. With a good driver you should get around 2.3 sec 60ft.

Hope thats of some help

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