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Good topic - I feel an essay coming on lol :Pimp2:

First off - I dont agree with posting offers in the thread itself - actually its against the forum rules, and also think its bad form to post if you have no intention of buying (unless you are certain the seller is trying to dupe someone by not properly describing the goods etc), and as has been said - really bad form if you get shitty coz someone doesnt accept your offer... however...

I sorta disagree Bass (and others) about not offering the price that seems reasonable to the offerer... I know your prices are reasonable Bass - but alot of people's arent.

I dont think you can put out a blanket call for no low-balling - its the way economics works - despite the best efforts of modern stores to institutionalise fixed-price shopping - if people dont want to sell things without negotiating - go work in Woolies :rofl:

Setting the terms of the sale is the SELLERS responsibility - if you dont want offers then set your price and write FIRM in your post, then just ignore PMs that arent on the money.

And who's to say what is a "ridiculous" offer and what isnt - take a look at AllBlitz's thread about his 19" wheels - started at $2300, and now its down to $1650 - thats a big drop - so who here has the right to say that anyone would have been wrong to offer say $1800 early on - hed have been happier than getting the $1650 now.... (and sorry Allblitz that wasnt an offer :D )

every seller has different motivations, needs for selling, how quick they need cash, and lots of other factors that can determine who has the nogotiating strength. The only way to clarify your selling position is by making it clear in your for sale post - without putting FIRM, i dont think you can complain about receiving offers.

Unless you do write FIRM - then negotiating is actually the best way to go - it allows two people to state their "ideal" selling and buying prices, each laughable to the other at first - but then find some middle ground that both agree on. If its done with the right attitude then it can be mutually rewarding - but it is the people that haggle with a bad attitude that wreck the fun.

And for the record - I'm a haggler and proud of it - its fun for both parties if done with a good attitude.... supermarkets/pubs/low priced goods etc are the ONLY place I wont bother with a good natured haggle... but shoes, clothes, furniture, car parts, cars, jewellery, rent, houses - you name it and it has a good sized mark-up over what the seller is happy to accept and Ill usually get 20 - 60% of just about anything. But as soon as they say "not negotiable" or "fixed price" theres no point getting shitty thats for sure... lifes too short. But yeah - just punched some sums into the calculator to estimate how much Ive saved on ALL my $100+ purchases this year (furniture, car, clothes) by haggling... itd be around $12,000 SAVED... so it all adds up - no way id have half the goodies I do now without saving by negotiating. But yeah - both parties have to WANT to haggle and be positive and both be satisfied with the outcome or it can be the a sh*tty experience. So if u dont - just write FIRM - easy as that!

Cheers Bass - good discussion topic!

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