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July 11 :O

http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.js...storyid=3244811

People's victory

By SIMON BENSON State Political Reporter

June 7, 2005

THE motorists of NSW have scored a stunning people's victory, with tough new P-plate laws to stop the carnage caused by young drivers.

Probationary drivers will be banned from driving high-powered cars and face restrictions on carrying passengers if they break the law. It follows a 10-month campaign – led by The Daily Telegraph – in which the families of youngsters killed and maimed on our roads pleaded for change.

No P1 or P2 driver will be able to drive high-powered vehicles – unless for work or exceptional circumstances.

P-plate drivers who have their licence suspended will not be allowed to carry more than one passenger for a period of 12 months.

Parents of some of the 24 young people who died in P-plate crashes since the campaign began said last night the laws were a victory for the people.

The regulations answer two of three things The Daily Telegraph readers asked for after 20-year-old Tim Hopkinson died in September 2004.

Roads Minister Michael Costa will today announce that from July 11:

P1 and P2 licence holders will be banned from driving turbo-charged, super-charged vehicles (diesel vehicles excepted), eight-cylinder vehicles and those with engine performance modifications. Exemptions will apply where powerful vehicles are required for genuine employment purposes, and where eight-cylinder 4WD vehicles are required by rural drivers;

A LIMIT of one passenger for 12 months will apply for P1 and P2 drivers who lose their licence because of a serious driving offence. The passenger restriction will apply when the licence is reissued;

NEW P-plate positioning, which also shows a driver's allowable speed limit and any restrictions, on licences;

CHANGES will not apply to current P-plate licence holders unless they are disqualified for an offence after July 11; and

A VEHICLE guide will be posted on the RTA website outlining the new rules.

The Daily Telegraph understands that other measures are expected to go before Cabinet for approval later in the year.

These will include higher standards for driver training – the third component of The Daily Telegraph campaign.

The laws would be reviewed by the Roads and Traffic Authority within 12 months.

"A 17-year-old driver with a P1 licence is about four times more likely to be involved in a fatal crash than a driver aged 26 or older," Mr Costa said.

"Each one of those fatalities represents a tragedy not only for the victims, but for their families and communities."  

The new laws come from the NSW Government's Young Driver Discussion Paper, released last November, and a Road Users Summit in March.

The Daily Telegraph's delegate to that summit Rebecca Stanford – herself a P-plate accident victim – welcomed the reforms.

WazR32GTSt Grand Master

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similar to the rules already in place in melb...

except the distinction is not "turbocharged, supercharged, or v8", its a power-to-weight ratio of 125 kW/tonne based on the car's stock figures...

i think its good to have some sort of regulation, but where do you draw a line?

siddr20 Grand Master

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OK what i wanna know is, what if i purchase my car from say japan in the next two weeks.. The car doesnt arrive till say a week after these rules have been enforced.. Can i not drive this car?? Or can i still gain some approval due to purchasin a car b4 these rules..

Any dealers or personal import ppl on here.. pls let me know asap.. All blitz?? what u reckon. CSV imports?? i dunno. anyone else who imports cars..

SO does it mean, i have to get my car registered by 2nd??

PLEASE TELL ME someone. stressed like hell now..

Sidd.

IOWNU Grand Master

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Damn that's harsh.

By the sound of things, its game over for NSW P Platers.

You might want to find out where the daily telegraph head office is ;).

I hope Mr.Bracks and Co don't follow suit!

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Thankfully the daily telegraph/government are idiots...

Toyota MR2, Honda S2000, DC2 Integra Type R, Nissan R34 GT Skyline... just a few N/A cars that really get up and go - maybe not *as* quick as a turbo, but they handle just as well and are all well balanced cars... and easily capable of getting to lethal speeds (when combined with a telegraph pole)

I've been studying road safety all semester at Uni - with the focus being the latest scheme, the "national road safety strategy 2001-2010" - and from all that study, i realise the government and RTA are just idiots and are applying band-aid solutions!

Ah well *hugs his N/A prelude with 147kW* ;)

IOWNU Grand Master

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I think the idea of "x type of engine" is silly. Power to weight ratio would work better.

From a governments point of view (which I don't support btw) I think these rules would be more effective, because it instantly rules out cars that are considered dangerous.

I mean i've been pulled over stacks of times.....the power to weight ratio has never come up (I don't won't to jinx myself.) and I drive a 32 GTR on my Ps.

Whereas now in NSW, a turbo car will instantly be prohibited.

Although...I still think these new regulations are far-fetched and that Australia is the most over-regulated country in the world....

TracidTrax Grand Master

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I think the idea of "x type of engine" is silly. Power to weight ratio would work better.

Siddr20,

RELAX DUDE! You got your P-plates before July 11 your alright.

cause Sydney is gay j/k and p plates must now suffer the consequences ;)

siddr20 Grand Master

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Lol yes i know i got my PS, but i dont have a turbod car.. i was going to import one, in a months time.. Hence, i heard i have to have the car registered by this new rules come out.. So that means, i would have to purchase a car, way b4 date n get it registered..

RTa doesnt know anything.. a friend rang up 2 ask. they didnt know..

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i dont think RTA has anything to do with it.

Its a traffic issue/offense.

You can continue to own your high powered car, its just that the law will not allow you to drive it.

i reckon it generally means that u cant drive, dosent matter when u get ur car, its more a case of ...if u r on ur ps, u cant drive this sort of car.

Good luck dude, looks like u can start posting the car in the trading post

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I think this is a load of BS and just a band aid solution like Menthu_Rae says.

This doesnt take into account the whole picture. I'll give two "examples":

1. A WRX has a turbocharged engine. It also has excellent brakes and pretty good handling. A standard commodore has neither(brakes might be ok, but not excellent). If the young drivers of both do happen to have a bit of a fang, I know which car I'd feel safer in.

2. Al gets his Ps one year before his mate Bob. Al drives his mums Mirage(nothing against mirages) to church every Sunday and occasianally elsewhere for an average of 20km a week. Al gets his licence so he can drive to work and averages over 500km a week. He also gets involved with a car club and participates in proffesionally supervised driving activities. Why can Al drive a powerful car 1 year before Bob? Because he doesnt have to wear a little piece of plastic on his car?

This is just a bandaid solution, but I know a real solution would be too hard too develop and implement, I'm just having a whinge.

Any car will do potentially fatal speeds, and a powerful car will only go as fast as you drive it/tell it to go.

I think they shouldnt ban P platers from driving powerful cars, they should just ban F@#$wits from driving completetly.

And no this will not affaect me or my soon to arrive GTR with 400hp as I already have my P's(nearly finished actually).

siddr20 Grand Master

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Hahhaah yea i was mis lead by this.. "No P1 or P2 driver will be able to drive high-powered vehicles – unless for work or exceptional circumstances"

heheh so i can buy my car in a months time then.. sweet..

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