fmic or ecu???

[Gamatron]

got some spare cash 2 spend and its time for an upgrade, but what to buy?

got the usual mods, .86bar, pod, turboback zorst.

if i get a fmic i can also heatshield my pod and run cai but the puta seems more bang for buck!

Wats your opinion?

Wat brand do u recomend?

:crazy:

cheers

[NZM.031]

fmic. definatly, you'll have to do it before you go exploring bigger turbos and more boost. it should be considered a must have, like the exhaust. an ecu may get you bang for buck, but it will need tuning, and will need re tuning with each further modification you do. ecu should be the last thing you do with the stock turbo.

i dont rate them but alot of people are using the hybrid coolers and not having a problem. i fitted one to a mates 180...the actual core is good, but i've had to go through and replace all the silicon joiners and hose clamps on it.

cheers

Linton

[Fly_With_Sky]

at your boost level i would recommend you get a good intercooler first. After that you can save again to get the ecu. May i also suggest a dump pipe and high flow cat, as the the stock dump is very restricitve...

[Gamatron]

fmic - 2

ecu - 0

nengun is selling greddy cooler kits for under 1k delivered how would these standup to the ever so popula hybrid cooler or even the copy kits i can get off slide for under 700???

[nismo33]

go the basic mods.. you'd be better off giving your turbo car more power.. higher boost would need a FMIC..i'm not too sure if your PFC would be able to give your engine more cold air while running higher boost than standard.--

See it this way -- your PFC would be limited to its real potential due to your lack of mods.

[grandmasterb]

FMIC for sure.

You will only have to get the car retuned when you fit it later on so why not put it on then get the power fc and tune then 100% :boinkcar:

[Gamatron]

guess its a fmic then.. but what brand, size, type?

[paulr33]

r33 gtr second hand and get some pipes made up, should be fine

[GtstCoupe]

Blitz - V-Spec LM Intercooler - L610 X H266 X W68 - $1100

Greddy/Trust - L600 X H240 Xw76 -$1095 or 1295 for fully polished:)

Hks - L600 X H300 X W65 - $1300 Or 1500 for pollished endtanks and all piping

they are all really the same size and are complete bolt up kits and seam the most popular and prices include delivery to victoria so it would be somewhat cheaper to qld.

hope this is useful

lee

[gtrGhosTDoGG11]

You can get china copies for $550 including piping from the recent thread made by JustJap. Thats bang for your buck.

[rev210]

I'd get yourself a Power FC. You can tune the fuel and ignition maps to provide better power and response and you can keep it as you upgrade the power bits.

From my experience unless you are very carefull not to get an intercooler that is too big (read 600x300x75 is too big) for the factory turbo your performance in terms of acceleration could well go backwards. Peak horsepower means nothing and even horsepower increases can be negated by a loss of engine response due to the far larger volume of air that must be moved through.. Or to put it another way; my old R33 ran low 13's without a front mount intercooler on little 205 tyres and there have been quite a few guys since who have done the same. Put your money back in your pocket whislt you have the factory turbo. Wait until you are ready to plan for the total package you want for your car. Pick the intercooler, turbo, cams and upgrade bits so they all match perfectly for the horsepower and performance goals you have. Do it this way and you avoid the 'bolt on boy' approach that costs more money and can often end up in a car that is slower than a factory stock one.

Note however, there are some good and cheap upgrades of intercoolers in the form of sidemount trust/ARC or even R34 GTT factory units. And don't forget to remove the panel behind your stock intercooler (through to the wheel arch) to increase the cooling airflow.

To sum up. Buy a Power FC and get more go. Buy a cheap mismatched front mount intercooler and cars like my old R33 gtst will hand you your ass in a race and return better fuel ecconomy.

[rev210]

By the way the fuel map on a factory ecu more often than not is way too rich in the top end. And don't get me started on the ignition maps for australian fuels. 20-30rwkw is not uncommon to gain with the power FC. The gains are throughout the rev range too.