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Can you get a good PowerFC tune for around $300 in Sydney?

benl1981

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benl1981 Grand Master

benl1981

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I'm investigating getting a PFC for a lightly modded R33. I.e. 10psi, R34 cooler, 3" full exhaust

Would a $300 tune get you safe power with better fuel consumption to stock??

I know it depends where you go but I'm just trying to ascertain how much on top of the PFC is needed for a good tune. I hear hitman does some good things.

Would 300 cover it???

Cubes Grand Master

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I see no reason why people charge $400.

$300 is plenty. Thats almost 3hrs of dyno time.

I asked for a 1hr tune and paid $100 as a result, the RB20DET base mape was up and running with the rb30det within 1hr, the tune consisted of a little bit of light load afr's, WOT afr's and ignition timing.

I think a lot of workshops take their customers for a ride and charge them not for time but for a 'tune'.

Ask if they charge by time or for a 'tune', then.. Simply hang around like I do. ;)

I've since asked what it would be worth for a complete tune including new injectors fitted, bigger turbo and adjustable cam gears.

I was told $300 maybe $400 depending how quickly the sweet spot for the cam gears is found.

For a mild rb25 with stock injectors & turbo there's no reason why a tune would take more than 1hr.

In all honesty, you probably won't get better fuel economy than stock for light load cruising, that is being stock fuel economy is around 430-500km's per tank.

WOT no doubt it will use less fuel, but you will be making more power so it cancels out. :)

If your under the stock light load cruise economy now you have issues else where in the car.

Beer Baron Grand Master

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I have been to the HITMAN and must say I thought Matt was pretty good. her certainly has all the right equipment (including a dyno) and seems to know what he's on about.

I say give him a shot.

T0nyGTSt Grand Master

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I see no reason why people charge $400.

 

$300 is plenty. Thats almost 3hrs of dyno time.

It's pure economics.

People charge what the market will bear.

The way I look at it, you're asking for someone to much around with the unit that can blow your engine.

That's a big responsibility and it takes time to know cars, RB motors and ECU.

If you want a no b/s charge by the hour... go to UAS - fixed rate per hour dyno tuning.

You can also try some of the road tuners like BEL, Hitman.

T.

Cubes Grand Master

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RPM used to charge $125 3 years ago.

Shaun (Boostworxs) charges $110 an hour.

Tilbrooks, I have no idea, they wanted $600 for a tune, they do have the PFC software so I would expect they will get the tune done quickly BUT they are able to fiddle with a few more options that the h/c doesn't have access to.

benl1981 Grand Master

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FROM UAS website

"DYNO TUNING - $140/HOUR

APEXI POWER FC TUNING - $590.00

Dyno time for diagnosis, tuning or tidy up tune of aftermarket computers and controllers if engine is modified, for example tuning Super AFC etc.

Our Apexi Power FC full tune includes part throttle, cold start and final road tune using Pro Tuner, knock sensor and Bosch Air Fuel Ratio meter and includes setting boost or multiple boost settings"

Sounds pretty thorough but $590 for a fairly stock car seems a lot. Might ask them or try Hitman etc...

BHDave Grand Master

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Can I ask why you want to run an FC on a 'fairly stock car'?

T.

Because 33's run stupid rich at the top end, i assume.

Plus it gives a good base to work off when installing more mods at a later date.

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from my experience Ben at UAS certainly seems to know what he's doing. I also thought the hitman was very good. BOTH places have the laptop software, and both have 2WD dynos.

Mate, I would ring them up and see which one you like, or see who is closer to you. personally I reckon they will both do a pretty good job.

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