medi_evil Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 hey dudes just wondering, I have mate who wants to get a boost controller but isn't sure what to get, its a toss up between the AVC-R and the Profec-E. so just after opinons an which is better or not etc cheers matt Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83745-avc-r-or-profec-e/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Blitz SBC ID3 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83745-avc-r-or-profec-e/#findComment-1515995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coupe-This Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 oi i was gonna say the blitz sbc id3 or u can also go the hks evc iv seriously, go look at the information for all of the mentioned boost controllers, then see which one suits u, and u like the look of, depending on price also, u can also get the ricey sbc color. meh. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83745-avc-r-or-profec-e/#findComment-1516033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
medi_evil Posted August 12, 2005 Author Share Posted August 12, 2005 oi i was gonna say the blitz sbc id3or u can also go the hks evc iv seriously, go look at the information for all of the mentioned boost controllers, then see which one suits u, and u like the look of, depending on price also, u can also get the ricey sbc color. meh. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> so u reckon they are better that avc-r or profec - e? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83745-avc-r-or-profec-e/#findComment-1518482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0207scc_boostcontrol/ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83745-avc-r-or-profec-e/#findComment-1518499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob82 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 AVCR has closed loop PID boost control, you can even change duty cycle w.r.t RPM - WOW just like every boost controller should. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83745-avc-r-or-profec-e/#findComment-1518897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busky2k Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Yeah and despite those features they are still a pain in the ass to use and still dont hold boost better than a decent bleeder IMO!!! Go the Blitz... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83745-avc-r-or-profec-e/#findComment-1519626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangles Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 What about the Hybrid 2-stage electronic boost control? Has anyone got anything good to say about that little gadget? I bought one simply because it was a good 'cheap' price for a EBC. Brendan Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83745-avc-r-or-profec-e/#findComment-1519893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 the HKS EVC's are the best on the market Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83745-avc-r-or-profec-e/#findComment-1519934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxx Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 but the HKS EVC don't have "gain" function, go Blitz Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83745-avc-r-or-profec-e/#findComment-1520679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 id prefer my boost to be held better Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83745-avc-r-or-profec-e/#findComment-1520761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
medi_evil Posted August 13, 2005 Author Share Posted August 13, 2005 but the HKS EVC don't have "gain" function, go Blitz <{POST_SNAPBACK}> which 1 have u got the idIII or the new colour 1? and have u got all the extras like speed meter etc or just the ebc Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83745-avc-r-or-profec-e/#findComment-1520925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Yeah and despite those features they are still a pain in the ass to use and still dont hold boost better than a decent bleeder IMO!!! Go the Blitz... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ...i no longer use an AVC-R, but did for 3-4 years with both the std turbo and a Trust turbo. The thing worked extremely well, never spiked, held stable boost. I was vert happy with it. There have been several instances where ppl claim they have not worked...i just cannot understand how this can be the case. If you understand how they work (which aint rocket science, just read the manual) then they are even easy to setup. The instances where they have not worked 100% have usually been traced back to not being installed correctly, with wrong diameter hose, undesirably long lengths of the incorrect diam hose etc, its debatable whether any EBC woudl work optimally if installed in the same manner?!?!?!?!?!?!? And they are a very flexible EBC, and the variabel duty cycle works very well as my std wastegate presssure is 0.65bar, and with the AVC-R set to 1.25bar it held boost just fine. So thats 9psi to 18psi and it managed to control boost. Others seem to say that its very difficult for an EBC to increase boost so much beyond what std spring pressure is, AVC-R did it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83745-avc-r-or-profec-e/#findComment-1521002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob82 Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Who gives a shit about a gain function when there is a PID loop trimming the boost to the desired level. This is how the autronic boost controller tables work and it is well impressive. What you really want is a boost MAP, RPM vs Load just like any fuel or timing MAP. This way you can eliminate the wastegate cracking to early. I dont think you can compare a bleeder vavle to a ebc. ie if your wastegate spring tension is 8psi and you want to run 15-20psi how is a bleeder going to hold the boost further along in the rev range when more and more pressure needs to be bled from the actuator? If only everything was linear eh.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/83745-avc-r-or-profec-e/#findComment-1521029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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