Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

the learning curve thingy isn't it automated?

yah the blitz SBC i colour is a combination of SBC iD <-- boost controler and power id or sumthing allows you to check the power, in horsepower and kilowatts at the engine...I think it's inaccurate tho...works like the Apexi RSM with the G sensor attached

the display of the SBC i colour look like hand phone colour display..cool stuf..but damn expensive..

cheapest electronic boost controller is the Greddy profac B-spec II I guess..abd $450 each, Apexi AVCR at $600 each, and the SBC I colour I think it's abt $1000....

I've used AVC-R in a wrx sti type-r and it held 1.3 bar boost stable as hell. Worked well with an evo 8 too. Maybe it's just me being too comfortable with it. LoL. Haven't experienced anything bad with it... so I'm happy with the product.

The thing about buying a 2nd hand AVC-R or anything for that matter is that solenoids can and will spoil. So when u purchase a 2nd hand one it can be a little risky. And the solenoid from apexi alone is not cheap. almost $200 if i'm not wrong? So it might be safer to get a new one.

any blitz product will work best

tuners dont like the avc-r and yes its easiest 2 fit into skyline

avc-r is siingle soleniod compared to the rest that are dual, probably why it wont hold boost on some appplications

greddy use fuzzy logic which has its disadvantages. google it and find out cbf typing more

Tuners don't like AVC-R ? I don't know where u heard that one from.. maybe it's the case here.. but not from where i'm from. But it really boils down to the user. If you're goin high boost, then a dual solenoid would work very much better than a single. I prefer the AVC-R due to the fact that it's more tuneable..more complex. It takes lots of time to just tune the avc-r properly, and if u do it right, it works like a charm. Had no experience with the Blitz so i can't really compare, but from what i gather, it's a good product, but the functions available is more limited than the avc-r.

Woo! thanks ppl for the info! I'm all over the shop :)

R33 IMPUL, that combo sounds like the way, but I'm thinking of trying to get round the 300HP mark, bit more. I think cause of that, running the SAFCII etc might not work too well because of the auto factor.

Thanks again guys, you've all been alot of help!

I'll talk a bit more with some tuners and take it from there I think.

Tuners don't like AVC-R ? I don't know where u heard that one from.. maybe it's the case here.. but not from where i'm from. But it really boils down to the user. If you're goin high boost, then a dual solenoid would work very much better than a single. I prefer the AVC-R due to the fact that it's more tuneable..more complex. It takes lots of time to just tune the avc-r properly, and if u do it right, it works like a charm. Had no experience with the Blitz so i can't really compare, but from what i gather, it's a good product, but the functions available is more limited than the avc-r.

and you were laughing at my previous post, ill enjoy hearing what you have to say. u enjoy it because it is complex. rule of thumb is something complex is worse when theres simpler examples. next thing u will be telling me u still running ms-dos or sumthing cos its more challenging. fact that u mention it takes lots of time to tune it is the same reason tuners dont like it. and yes ive seen a well tuned evo 8 in singapore with a gear judge tuned avc-r (garage R) and even the owner reckoned it wasnt worth it. just needed to match with the interior so it was a cosmetic factor

BTW i got avc-r and its shite & i know where your coming from with its features. but its meant to control boost-period, not takeover iraq

Edited by kidd
and you were laughing at my previous post, ill enjoy hearing what you have to say. u enjoy it because it is complex. rule of thumb is something complex is worse when theres simpler examples. next thing u will be telling me u still running ms-dos or sumthing cos its more challenging. fact that u mention it takes lots of time to tune it is the same reason tuners dont like it.  and yes ive seen a well tuned evo 8 in singapore with a gear judge tuned avc-r (garage R) and even the owner reckoned it wasnt worth it. just needed to match with the interior so it was a cosmetic factor

BTW i got avc-r and its shite & i know where your coming from with its features. but its meant to control boost-period, not takeover iraq

Now we're gettin personal are we? Look. I ain't here to start a war or shoot down iraq as u said. Since u have the avc-r you should know about it's features and such.

You said anything from blitz is good. And it was just vague, it sounded as if you were a small kid who when pple said there is santa clause, u went around telling everyone that there really is.

I did some reseach on the blitz and i agree it's fantastically good from what i read. So much so that i'm considering getting it instead of the avc-r. If I never try new stuff, I'll never know what's better. Change is important for advancement. Without it, the whole world would be stagnant and we wouldn't have colour televisions and tv's and plasma and lcds.

No, i'm not telling u to use ms dos, but i do encourage linux. It's more complex and it's for the advanced user. Not anyone can handel ssh or telnet or stuff like that. And sometime ago Linux came out with a GUI. The favourite part about linux is it's stable, but more complex.

I personally don't think avc-rs are shit, but again to each their own. I felt tuning it was fun, interesting and i learnt new stuff, eg duty cycle, different settings at different rpms. The avc-r was the best at the time in 1999. Simple as that. And now times have changed. It worked fine as hell for me, with my tuning which took a whole day of fun. Spiked once in a rare while, which is like almost never. And responsive when i need it for more spirited driving. So when pple tell me avc-r is sucky, i believe it boils down to their tune of stuff. The user, not the unit, as the unit is not as intelligent as the new SBC 3 and needs a lot of work to be tuned.

Cheers! :O

P/s: Regarding my previous post, if u noticed, i'm not one to insult pple. So if u took it as that, then sorry dude, no malice intended. :)

Actually i don't find it unstable. It's just very complex, which i find challenging. To a point that u definitely need to take some time to fully understand and tune it. A rushed job or impatiance can cause it to be unstable. That's the reason why i took 1 full day and 1 & 1/2 tank of gas just to get it tuned properly. Worse than doing a dyno. LoL :) Treat it with love and care, and it'll show the same. Maybe it just loved my car and my car loved it too. LOL.

Actually i don't find it unstable. It's just very complex, which i find challenging. To a point that u definitely need to take some time to fully understand and tune it. A rushed job or impatiance can cause it to be unstable. That's the reason why i took 1 full day and 1 & 1/2 tank of gas just to get it tuned properly. Worse than doing a dyno. LoL :blink: Treat it with love and care, and it'll show the same. Maybe it just loved my car and my car loved it too. LOL.

you just got lucky

do a search

they suck

but look rice

" While the AVC-R is supposed to tune itself, it seems the brunt of the work is on your shoulders. If you like to fiddle with things, you'll be in heaven. " Yeahh... my heaven! hehehe. Anyone has any idea if the sbc 3 can vary the boost with rpm? Cause u don't need the boost to suddenly kick in for day to day driving. Decided to go with the blitz to try it out. :(

another one here with avcr and im undecided. i found if i turn the learning off its a lot more stable even without tuning. i agree that it is complex and im sure its awesome if you spend 7.5 hours tuning it but all im after is stable boost. iraq to myself would be pretty cool though...

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • I have been being VERY quiet about what you're alluding to, as it is something that ticks me off... The number of cars from factory that run coil overs is HUGE! Most of them these days do... The other part that annoys me, is people saying "Well all the incabin adjustable suspension is illegal by blah blah blah"... If that's the case, then why can I buy a car brand new that can do it if, FULL STOP in cabin adjustable suspension is illegal...   Also, I could just chuck some aftermarket shocks in my car, throw the stock springs on, after my blue slip, dump my super low springs back in. Same shock and spring style setup... Hell, they could also be the same colour springs etc.     I'm voting, BlueSlipper didn't want to touch the above car for some reason. Whether it be some sort of bias against the car, the owner, them maybe having previously done dodgy shit and now they're being super careful in case they get slapped in the face by the Gumbyment again... Find a new blueslip place.   And can confirm as you had said, yes there are holy bibles of vehicle heights, and all sorts of other suspension stuff. Heck your run of the mill mechanic, and tyre shop has access to all of that stuff. It's how they do wheel alignments...
    • Funny story Heading to Sydney this morning on the HWY there was some slow traffic, so I gave it the beans and midway through my overtaking "power run" I lost all power It seems that I missed a hose clamp,  and the MAF and filter went WiFi To make this more problematic, the little tool kit that lives in the boot, is sitting in the sun room at Goulburn......LOL Luckily for me I found a bit of steel on the side of the road that could be used like a rusty and bent flat head screw driver to tighten it up enough that it got me into Sydney, it is now all tight like a tiger with the aid of a 8mm socket Note to self: Use my brain and double check stuff, and always keep that little tool kit in the car for when I have a brain fart
    • Oh, and as for everyone with their fuel economy changes, I switch between E10 and 98 in the company car. Even do when I had personal cars that could run on E10. You know what changed my fuel economy in any noticeable way? How I drove, and where I drove. Otherwise, say on full tanks of just back and forth from work only (So same trips, same sort of traffic), couldn't notice a difference that I can correlate to the type of fuel in use. In the current vehicle, that's over 42L of USABLE fuel. While 98 is all "more energy dense", it also has higher knock resistance as it takes more energy to get it to ignite too. The longer hydrocarbons, typically more tightly bound. So running the same ignition map, can also produce less power, if there isn't enough time to get it all burnt through properly, as yep, the flame propagation speed is different from lower octane fuel to higher (Higher has a lower flame propagation, due to the more tightly bound and harder to self ignite funs. This is also typically where, a vehicle that is designed purely to run on 91 (Whether it be E10 or normal 91) usually sees absolutely no real world difference in fuel economy for the normal man, woman, or dog.
    • We've got some servos around me that have 91 with E10, 91 (no E10), 95, and 98. At those stations the change from 91 E10 to 91, is typically around 8c/L.   But lets not get started on the price of fuel in Oz. It's ridiculous. All the service stations around me, bar one, the price of fuel has been over the $2 mark per litre for the cheapest, 98 being around $2.45. That one service station is a CostCo, fuel from it comes from the same refineries, and makes no pitstops, it runs great, including the 98. In fact, I've had no issues on CostCo fuel, but plenty of issues at other stations!. The CostCo fuel, was $1.65 roughly this week for 94 with E10. $1.88 for 98. Servos directly across from it, $2.10 for 91 E10, and $2.48 for 98. The part I had to laugh at? If I drive multiple HOURS away from Brisbane, say out near Nanango, or Kingaroy, or even out to Goondiwindi, the price of their fuel, is the same as what it is at the CostCo... Oh, and that BP servo at Goondiwindi is HUGE and goes through epic turnover of fuel, so it's not sitting there for weeks going to shit. And what blows me away, my mate is one of the people who drives the Fuel Tanker all around QLD, delivering to all those places. At the same company his previous role was doing the "local haul" deliveries... Same truck, same driver, same pickup point it all comes from. So you tell me, how the hell it is 60c/L CHEAPER for fuel, when nearly all else is equal, except they require a B-Double to drive half a day out of Brisbane, and half a day back, every second day, compared to the delivery that can be under 30 minutes drive from the fuel pickup point... Not to mention, go five blocks down the road, and Ampol to Ampol will vary 30c/L... And I've had this conversation with my mate... The way it's priced, is just typical, pure and utter rubbish... He also does runs from Brisbane, to all over QLD, down to Newcastle, Sydney, Nowra, Melbourne, Geelong, and even out to parts of the NT depending on the companies needs. His main stuff is all the longer distance away from home for a few days at a time, then when he's back, he loves to just pickup extra shifts wherever he can in whichever truck, hence all the weird different places.   Oh, as for getting E10 into all the fuels in Australia... It was very quickly highlighted, that we don't have enough biomass available to use to make E10 sustainably like they require, and it would dramatically cut into our, and the worlds food chain supply...   I vote we all just start running on liquid methane gas... Plenty of that just getting tapped off at tips from underground decay... (Note, this is pure just stupid commenting. I could very easily highlight the reasons its not a good idea especially on scale...)
    • Am I correct in assuming that the R35's are getting the classic skyline haircut off the odometer?  Quick search on carsales, there are 33 08 and 09 GTR's for sale, only 2 of them have more then 100,000km's on them (116,075 and 110,000 respectively).  And somehow there are about 25 for sale with around 60,000kms? Looks like the classic skyline haircut to me =/
×
×
  • Create New...