Not been here in a while either,
i go to the gym with one guy whos done it natural for 5 years, and his younger brother who had jumped on it to catch up.. 5 cycles later and the older can still push more and more, hell in some things i can even push more.. and i have only been going for just under a year..
I've sized myself up the other week. and have gained.
5+cm on my thighs, 2+cm on my calves, 1+cm on my chest, 1-2cm on my biceps, stomach hasnt really shrunk... need to get onto cardio still..
i've finally gotten up to doing 140kg withe the squats. (not smith machine on the free weight bar resting on back), i find legs the best day at the gym haha.
Using Ultimate nutrition iso mass protein, $130 for 5kg. and roughly 30-40grams of protein in 1 1/2 scoup's.. seems to be working well for me and my natural mate..
i started in Jan this year, and was around 82kg's now i sit on 87kg with